DesirousOfChange

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  Was / Is God biased ? prejudiced against certain Peoples / Tribes or Nations ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  let me explain :.

  after the creation account of the bible, tribes of people and nations began to form and spread around the land.. god first chose noah and his family to protect them as he destroys all others in the flood.. and he ticks off everyone in babel ?

  and then he favours abraham and his descendants as the nation of israel culminating in the jewish lineage to jesus the son of god.. he has never had any dealings with any other people`s or nation isn`t that some form of favouritism ?

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  Isn't it obvious?

  He only gave the Bible to white Europeans so they could learn about him.
  
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  Which of you readers are being shunned by their relatives / friends ?

  by stan livedeath in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a simple " me" if you dont want to say more--or a short explanation about who is shunning you and how long has this been going on.. i'll set the ball rolling: my daughter--her husband and children; my younger son --no contact from them for 40 years...because i left their religion.. (edit--i just noticed the typo in the header--if should be of ).

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  My closest elder friend is now ghosting me. (We've been gone about 8 (+/-) years.) Maybe he will still call to remind me of the Memorial.

  Our kids are POMO. Most siblings have not cut us off. One is PIMO, others are PIMI (but still stay in contact since we are just "stumbled" and inactive).The ones who have cut us off have done so for other reasons, but take the self righteous position that we are "bad" people.
  
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  No funeral

  by road to nowhere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have run across another jw death where the final wishes are for no service.

  3rd or 4th instance.

  another wanted a celebration of life which the elders squelched as far as i know.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Even my diehard JW mom says she does not want an infomercial!
  
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  Would you still be angry with Lloyd Evans ?

  by BettyHumpter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if instead of thailand, he had gone to a place where its legal and (supposedly) has some sort of oversight to prevent exploitation?

  like nevada in the u.s or amsterdam in europe?

  would the being unfaithful part still be a deal breaker as far as supporting his channel?

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  I think that late night comedians and talk show hosts give JWs more recognition than they will ever generate on their own. Even their abuse issues get nothing like the Catholic Church did as front page news. That's why the GB can keep declaring it's all lies -- it isn't newsworthy enough to create any serious amount of attention in the public eye.

  JW's are 1/10th of 1 percent of the global population. Of course, everyone else is going to be destroyed.
  
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  Next time a jw says "the end is sooo close now"

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  say this.

  with what's going on the world does it look like they are going to proclaim peace and security anytime soon?!

  or was the organization wrong again about the end times?.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I recall being in on a conversation between two elders where one was explaining to the other that he had maxed out on his union pension and had decided to change positions so he could join a different union and start building his nd pension. I did not have the balls to say something like "but you're sure Armageddon is so very very near", right?
  
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  A Great Life After Leaving

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/shunned-jehovahs-witnesses-life-now-7613921.

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  It was wonderful to get my mind back ~ LHG

  I don't think I've looked at it that way. Good summation.

  Occasionally my wife & I dwell on the fact that we lost our "network of friends" when we left. And of course, one can say there were NOT really "friends" if they were "conditional" friends. True. But they seemed "real" at the time when we were still drinking the Koolaid. They were the people who visited you when you were hospitalized. They were the people you got together with for Pinochle or Hearts or went to lunch with after the meeting. That void is real.

  But I noticed this week when one of our kids posted something on Facebook they had dozens of replies and comments which were mostly from people that I do not know. I realized that they had developed their "new network" which is why they say they don't miss the unconditional "friends" that have disappeared from their lives. They have new lives. Bravo!
  
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  Next time a jw says "the end is sooo close now"

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  say this.

  with what's going on the world does it look like they are going to proclaim peace and security anytime soon?!

  or was the organization wrong again about the end times?.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I’ll sign an agreement with you, with these terms:

  — I give you $20,000 cash right now

  — You sign a contract giving me 100% of all your assets 5 years from now. You can continue to use those assets (house, car, cash, etc.) for the next 4 years and 364 days, but at year 5, it is all legally and fully mine

  I know a JW who did something like that. His lucrative job was moving and he did not want to relocate. He accepted a one-time payout of his retirement funds "knowing" that it would be more than enough for he & his wife to live on until Armageddon.

  You know the rest of the story. In a few years the money was all gone and they were still "waiting on Jehovah". No Armageddon. No Paradise. No pandas. No retirement. No money. And died a ward of the State.
  

  
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  What are the odds that Armageddon is soooo close?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well judging from past prophetic pronouncements....go figure.

  "surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of god that the lord jesus is present and has been since 1874;…" watchtower 1924 jan 1 p.5).

  "the prophecy of the bible, fully supported by the physical facts in fulfillment thereof, shows that the second coming of christ dates from the fall of the year 1914.

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  DesirousOfChange

  WOW! All that research for quotes. Vander, you spend way too much time on a group of religious losers.
  
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  Is the Governing Body still considering giving an apology?

  by was a new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  cricket australia apologised to child sex abuse survivors on monday.. https://supersport.com/cricket/news/d697602e-7832-45d7-9710-024493595f57/cricket_australia_sorry_for_historical_child_sex_abuse.

  is it still foreseeable the governing body will consider giving an apology to anyone who has suffered sexual abuse in australia?

  7 years ago.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Dreaming.............
  
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  Would you still be angry with Lloyd Evans ?

  by BettyHumpter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if instead of thailand, he had gone to a place where its legal and (supposedly) has some sort of oversight to prevent exploitation?

  like nevada in the u.s or amsterdam in europe?

  would the being unfaithful part still be a deal breaker as far as supporting his channel?

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  DesirousOfChange

  To quote Hyman Roth: "He's small potatoes."

  It's ironic how JWs always found little BS things to make into BIG stories like it really mattered and ex-JWs continue the tradition. Neither group has any real bearing on the World Scene today. It only matters to us because we were/are members in one or probably both of those "clubs".