DesirousOfChange

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  I am not redsetter, here is his message for you

  by redsetter2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you read this correctly.

  as i explained in an earlier post, i am a "ghostwriter" for the original resetter.

  i'm a woman, a pimo regular pioneer working for my friend who was redsetter1 on reddit.

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  DesirousOfChange

  "Does anyone really believe posters like this?"
  When he can do the secret handshake, I'll believe him wholeheartedly!

  
  
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  When JW.org drops 607BCE...

  by Nathan Natas in

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  2. beliefs

  probably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.

  in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?

  " by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.

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  Celebrated WT scholars have long championed the date 607 BCE for the destruction of Jerusalem

  “WT scholars”

  NOW THATS FUNNY!!
  
  
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  Advice on fade?

  by NotNorwich in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello, i’ve just joined here and am hoping for some advice.

  i was baptised a long time ago but left soon after (da).. i recently returned and have a bible study.

  was reinstated about a year ago.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Always keep quiet around Jw's they will rat you out in a heart beat.

  And they will think you should thank them for trying to “save your (everlasting) life”!
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  Advice on fade?

  by NotNorwich in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello, i’ve just joined here and am hoping for some advice.

  i was baptised a long time ago but left soon after (da).. i recently returned and have a bible study.

  was reinstated about a year ago.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I’m wondering whether to just come out with it or to just fade.

  If you just come out and tell them what your thinking and that you have doubts, that may totally screw up your "fade". I assume that since you have managed to get reinstated, you do not want to do anything to jeopardize that so that you can maintain a relationship with JW family. It is especially dangerous to express doubts about the GB. "Don't you believe that the GB are the arrangement Jehovah is using to direct His Organization?" Answer that wrong and you're outta there again!

  Probably best if you continue to play the "MOM IS SICK" card and tell them your schedule is SO BUSY at the moment that you are SO STRESSED OUT. Thank them for their love and concern and promise you'll see them real soon -- just as soon as you are able to get back in person.

  
  
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  Will Watchtower and Jehovah's Witnesses suffer the same fate as the Catholic Church?

  by Balaamsass2 in

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  2. child-abuse

  northern california, 4/2/2024.

  "sacramento catholic diocese files for bankruptcy reorganization in wake of abuse lawsuits".

  https://www.yahoo.com/news/sacramento-catholic-diocese-files-bankruptcy-160421282.html.

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  I think WT is doing their best to avoid this same outcome. If more US States relax the Statute of Limitations on civil suits for past CSA the potential of it taking down WT financially increases.
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  I am not redsetter, here is his message for you

  by redsetter2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you read this correctly.

  as i explained in an earlier post, i am a "ghostwriter" for the original resetter.

  i'm a woman, a pimo regular pioneer working for my friend who was redsetter1 on reddit.

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  Was it Designed?

  by Jeffro in

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  the jw website is currently featuring a piece: the shell of the diabolical ironclad beetle​—was it designed?

  it is part of their regular tedious 'was it designed?

  ' series that purports that very very specific animal species must have been specifically designed because of some seemingly amazing feature.. but they seem completely unaware that this directly contradicts their notion that only very broad 'kinds' were required on the mythical 'ark'.

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  This is what you get when it's dreamed up by a bunch of under-educated morons who got their college degree equivalent from reading the Awake! magazine.
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  2024-April Shepherd The Flock Of God Manual.

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2024-april-elder-manual.. .

  https://files.accessjw.org/s/qpctw2hg87t9hxx .

  grandpa!.

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  DesirousOfChange

  All the weird hard line stuff is still in the PDF.

  Surely they do not think their secret book is secret.

  Angus Stewart, the Counselor (or whatever his official title is) in the ARC hearings knew the Elders Book better than any of the elders that were in the Hot Seat. That guy was VERY impressive.

  No more speaking out of both sides of their mouth -- their secret rules are "on record" now.
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  2024-April Shepherd The Flock Of God Manual.

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2024-april-elder-manual.. .

  https://files.accessjw.org/s/qpctw2hg87t9hxx .

  grandpa!.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Apparently, the recent changes happened so fast (due to Japan and Norway decisions) that they weren't yet incorporated into this release. Hence, the changes in the GB Update will be covered thru the already released Elder's Correspondence and then at upcoming annual Elder's Meeting / Training session, wherein they'll be directed to write things in the margins.
  So this tells you just how sudden this "90-day DF'ing, then repentance and let back in" change was.

  Sometimes what WT publishes or says in statements is not really how things happen in reality. They "spin" things for public consumption but I doubt they really intend for their "secret manual", which they know is NOT secret any longer, to conflict with the spin they are giving Norway and other European communities that see their violation of Human Rights.

  But then , WHY the new revision so soon? They just released the latest edition in October 2023!
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  GERMAN EXJW YOUTUBE CHANNEL WINS IN COURT

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this following story is about the german exjw channel jz help that received a cease and desist letter from the watchtower : "we embarked on a journey to shed light on human rights violations within the jehovah's witnesses community.

  it all began when our youtube channel, initially named jw victim assistance, was abruptly suspended in august 2019 by the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, claiming a breach of human rights.

  subsequently, in october, we received a cease and desist notice, demanding the cessation of using the abbreviation 'jw' within a short timeframe.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Moreover, the associated legal costs posed a significant financial burden, which we were unable to bear at the time.

  With their access to free attorneys, WT counts on being able to OUT-LAWYER anyone else.