Posts by Sabin

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Love is like God.

by The Rebel in

neither, can be proven only to the believer can they exist.

we could therefore say that a persons feelings on god and love are simply chemical reactions produced by the brain.

however what i find interesting is that if a certain part of a persons brain gets damaged their personalities and emotions can radically change.. the rebel..

My dear Morpheus, I do so apologize if you thought my words were directed at you personally I assure you they were not. I just made a statement of how I personally feel about the younger generation. There is a beauty in the simple way children see things as adults when we express an appreciation for that as apposed to correcting them all the time then we encourage them to explore more & learn their own truths be it God or not. This is something the WTBTS neglects to realise, they do not understand Jesus words to become like a child.

I hope that I have explained myself better, I in way wished to suggest you were lacking in humility.

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Love is like God.

by The Rebel in

neither, can be proven only to the believer can they exist.

we could therefore say that a persons feelings on god and love are simply chemical reactions produced by the brain.

however what i find interesting is that if a certain part of a persons brain gets damaged their personalities and emotions can radically change.. the rebel..

Sabin

Morpheaus, if you go through life looking at everything through your own eye`s & never through the eye`s of a child, it is because you have neglected to humble yourself, & therefore you never see the wonder or beauty around you & you never learn the things that only a child can teach.

This isn't something I can explain to you, you have to work it out for yourself. Children offer much wisdom for those not to proud to learn. It is sad, I think for you, that all you have to say about the words of a little one is negative. Does it really matter weather you think she is wrong?

Rebel, what are you talking about. Love comes from what is inside us. A person who willingly sacrifices their life for a complete stranger is not just an act of bravery it is also an act of love. Love is more than the brain or the heart it is the whole being, it is a warmth, a light that cannot be made to go out. If there is no love then there can be no hate either. Do you believe there is hate in the world?

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Basic JW Doctrine

by crolson in

jw
friends

hi, i am not a jw, but i am a student studying the jehovah's witnesses.

i was wondering if a jw could answer a few questions for me about your doctrine?.

where does your teaching come from (which writings)?.

Sabin

Thank you Crolson that is very thoughtful of you. Yes lots have left & are very hurt by the injustices done. However I must say that this is so of all religions so while you may find many things wrong with the way the organization conducts itself I hope you will not be to judgmental on the every day jW who in the main are just trying to do their best. Their are lots of those on this forum.

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Basic JW Doctrine

by crolson in

jw
friends

hi, i am not a jw, but i am a student studying the jehovah's witnesses.

i was wondering if a jw could answer a few questions for me about your doctrine?.

where does your teaching come from (which writings)?.

Sabin

Hello Crolson, it is so nice to meet you. You have an awful lot of questions. You say you are a student studying JW what exactly do you mean, studying with them or about them? If you are studying about them then may I be so rude as to ask in what capacity? You will find many different answers to some of the things you ask, as one`s on here have varying opinions. What you will find though is a group of people who unlike the average JW allows others the right to their opinions, a group who are able to agree to dis-agree with out judging others as bad/fit for destruction, again unlike the JW`s. Please stay & I hope you will find it an education. SABIN.

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truth

by Sabin in

jw
friends

i`ve been thinking, a thread was put up about a month ago asking the question " why me?

basically why some of us find out ttatt while others are so blinded, good, sincere people that we love.

well after some consideration i have come to the conclusion that 1) some are in the truth 2) others want truth.

Sabin

I`ve been thinking, a thread was put up about a month ago asking the question " Why me? basically why some of us find out TTATT while others are so blinded, good, sincere people that we love. Well after some consideration I have come to the conclusion that 1) some are IN the truth 2) others WANT truth. There is a big difference between the two, it`s the 2nd group that seem to wake up because they are not so inclined to just blindly ignore what is going on when they see very clearly something is a miss. They are aware that lies are being told & move to investigate, thus learning TTATT.

What do you think? could this be so in your case?

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Time for a BK cult purge again

by Witness My Fury in

there's too many bk cult threads and operatives on here lately.

mind you 0 should be the figure at any rate.. here's a simple suggestion.

you can sniff out a bk cult adherent by flagging certain keywords they are guaranteed to use.

Sabin

Yes what is BK?

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All It Takes Is ONE!

by John Aquila in

jw
friends

ive been reading all these posts about bethelites and special pioneers being kicked out in the street and being forced to get a job to provide for themselves..

and im trying to put myself in their situation and feel the emotions that must be going through their mind.

what if my wife and i both dropped out of school to pioneer and got married at 18. and what if we were very faithful in listening to everything the organization says.

Sabin

Oh oppostate you are right, I remember in 1 of the books it said they will be adopted as children only at the end of the 1000 years when they attain perfection (worship book I think) well that has to be wrong cause the anointed are imperfect while on earth as well so they cant be considered God`s children either, that would just be hypocritical. So I`ve decided it`s what I believe.

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A call from family - Armageddon this month!

by kaik in

i very seldom receive a call from my jw siblings, i mean seldom.

i can count them on my hand in past 10 years.

while we talk about mom a lot and i am in touch with her, i was very surprised when i received this call.

Sabin

yes yes it`s true they are sending out more regular pioneers that is because they are changing the status of the special pioneers so they no longer have to pay them an allowance, then they get to keep more of the contributions for themselves. You can bet your bottom dollar that the babble crap society hasn't told them that. OMG this makes me feel so mad, is there anything that comes from the WTBTS that isn't tainted with falsehood. They lie all the time by omission, deliberately withholding information from the congregations when they have a bloody right to know. It`s cause half the JDub`s would walk out if they actually knew the facts. The Bastards!

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All It Takes Is ONE!

by John Aquila in

jw
friends

ive been reading all these posts about bethelites and special pioneers being kicked out in the street and being forced to get a job to provide for themselves..

and im trying to put myself in their situation and feel the emotions that must be going through their mind.

what if my wife and i both dropped out of school to pioneer and got married at 18. and what if we were very faithful in listening to everything the organization says.

Sabin

John Aquila another beautifully written thread. That I fear is how it will be for many. Surly it would have been a kindness on the part of the borg to get the younger ones integrated back into society as I would be so much easier for them to cope.

Simon, I`m afraid that I feel the Borg is absolutely responsible for these ones fate. You have to remember these people believed they were serving their heavenly father, many would be completely sincere in their endeavours, is a child to blame for the abuses inflicted on it by an unloving parent. I know what your going to say they aren't children, but we are all children of God at least according to the Borg. Now many of the ones dropped will feel abandoned & that will have a profound effect on their mental & emotional well being. I think it is cruel.

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Someone please tell me there is a JW Survivor help line

by WireRider in

who can jw survivors call for help?

experienced survivors?

anyone?

Sabin

Hello again Wirerider, Aside from the forum here where some-one can talk freely without judgment, I would recommend Exiting the JW cult: a healing hand book by Bonnie Zieman. Yes you do have to buy it however it`s not really expensive & the information & advise she offers having been raised a JW for 30yrs, experienced the challenges of leaving, was a licenced psychotherapist I have found to be of great value. You could probably borrow one from the library at no cost at all as well. Are you thinking of yourself or for your ex?