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  What has the Watchtower reading material done to YOU?

  by The Rebel in

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  the reason i ask is because i realise i couldn't go on reading watchtower material.

  i have discovered it did something to my mind no other literature has done to me before.

  it had turned me in to a person without a heart, or soul, and made me in humane and distant from other humans who didn't share the w.t world view.. i now feel ashamed of my childish behaviour, and i have learnt :-.

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  Sabin

  I know, they say put your hand up to answer. What for, we just read it, it`s in the bloody paragraph.
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  What has the Watchtower reading material done to YOU?

  by The Rebel in

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  the reason i ask is because i realise i couldn't go on reading watchtower material.

  i have discovered it did something to my mind no other literature has done to me before.

  it had turned me in to a person without a heart, or soul, and made me in humane and distant from other humans who didn't share the w.t world view.. i now feel ashamed of my childish behaviour, and i have learnt :-.

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  I don't read it, nearly all of my books were boxed up & put in the attic the spares were thrown out, i cant stand the new bible (silver sword). I did like the animal/cultural/historical stuff though. Everything to me now is a contradiction & an insult to Jesus & what he represents. We went out to get a dvd & I saw the JW.Org sign it actually made me feel nausea. The W.T. what a joke, they write the article, they ask the question & they tell you what to answer.
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  Crazyguy is going batshit crazy a Rant

  by Crazyguy in

  1. social
  2. family

  yesterday some jw's came over to my house and were even being nice to me, most of the time if they do come by an elder or ms may say something but the others will not, its even hard for them to say just hello (how pathetic).

  ( they also do this behind my back as if i don't know).

  i now realize by not being their i've handed my kids right over to them!.

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  Sabin

  Crazy Guy. You need to calm down & work out what is really bothering you. Is it that your kids go to the meetings, are responding well to the JW teachings, your own guilty conscience in that you feel your not playing such a big part in your kids life or that your son called this man dad. Then you can go forward from there. On the matter of your son calling some one else dad, Millie is right. That is over stepping the line & as I said before on your other post do something about it even if it pisses them off, speak up. You don't have to do it in anger but you do need to get jealous for your family for your kid`s. If any of them question this I would have bells ringing in my ears, why do you want my kids calling you dad, you stop encouraging it or I`ll call the branch office. Don't get angry with your kid`s though. & no if you want a straight answer I wouldn't be going all apostate on them, remember once you say something it cant be unsaid. If they are happy then let them be. My hubby told me that if the kid`s were happy to study than it`s fine if however they say they don't want to at any time they weren't to be forced. It`s called being reasonable. If you try to pull them away they will go more in it`s what kid`s do, that`s why people tell you to just love them. If you have to find the right words when expressing what you personally believe do so in a way that doesn't run your wives beliefs down, that's equal to putting your kids down. tread carefully, you don't want them to grow up with memories of their farther being an arsehole. Collecting info on the borg & gently plant the seeds always the best option instead of saying out right you don't believe in shunning you can say I don't like the way in which they shun people. He will ask you to explain, this is your moment, use him as an example how you couldn't turn your back on him when he needed you most, Jesus didn't treat others this way etc. Instead of fighting the borg use the tactics they taught you with your family. Find the common ground. You know your children better than anyone else that's why its so hard for people to give personal advice there are some things as a parent that only you can work out, its you that ultimately will pay the price or get the benefits. On your remarks about not giving support on the forum. What do you want us to do, lick your arse . I think from what ive read that many here are doing their best to support you if that isn't enough then tell us where we can help further, we all have our problems to bare. Many on here are struggling also, I think we need to stick together as best we can. I`m sorry if any of what ive written has caused offense that wasn't my intent. SABIN
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  I feel trapped...I might return to the Borg....

  by JustHuman14 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have being thinking quite a while before posting.

  actually i haven't post for quite a long in the forum and i guess i'm one of the old ones, since i became member since 2001.. after leaving the borg for almost 16 years and disfellowshiped 10 years ago.

  you can see my relevant post:.

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  JustHuma, Witness my Fury. Is so right. that is exactly what happens. You are only as good as your last service report. However, only you know in your heart what you need to do & what ever that is then that's o.k. You can still talk on here. Tell us all how it`s going. You may get lucky & wind up in a golden cong, I`ve been in one of those it was great. If not then your gonna struggle with all the hypocrisy & lies. Just my opinion. No judgment.
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  Hello

  by Munster Abu in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  new here but looking forward to joining in some of the discussions with you all.. a small bit about me: i'm shane.

  was raised as a jw in the uk by my mum (single parent family) from about 2 years of age.

  got baptised at 15 for all the wrong reasons.

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  Sabin

  Hello Munster Abu, It`s so nice to meet you. This such a great place to be. Only the best join, So they do. HAHA! SABIN
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  Royal Commission taking our emails to heart

  by wannaexit in

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  2. friends

  during the proceedings of australian royal commission, as many of you, i also took time to share with the office of mr stewart, my thoughts and perspective on what what being said and not said by the witness elders on the stand.

  within a day a received a reply from office of angus stewart thanking and appreciating the insight from those on the "inside".

  yesterday i received a further email that my correspondence was passed on to case study 29 (jehovah's witnesses) team for their consideration.. it sounds like they are taking all our collective experience and knowledge into account as the commission continues its work..

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  Sabin

  Yes Yes, me to I got an email back. Hallelujah HALLELUJAH HA-LLLLEE-LUU-JAHHH. There must have been thousands that got sent. WOW! what the hell is WTBTS(666) gonna make of that do ya think?
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  The fall of Jericho - PROOF!

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  from the november 2015 watchtower:.

  what have archaeologists found that shows that jericho was captured in a short time?.

  joshua 6:10-15, 20 says that the israelite soldiers marched around the city of jericho once a day for six days.

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  Sabin

  I don't disagree with you here as I don't have the facts. The W.Ts take on things is usually to benefit themselves in some way. When it comes to the Bible then I tread cautiously. Many times it`s been said to be wrong only down the line to turn out right. The city of Petra for example. Wasnt it said to be impossible for a city to be built in a mountain & then they found it. The Exodus, crossing the Red sea etc. Well that's my opinion be it right or wrong I happen to have a great deal of respect for the bible. The WTBTS
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  Pioneering

  by Sabin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i`ve heard many pioneers claim that they are deserving of material things because they are the ones who make all the sacrifices.

  one claimed that jehovah had made sure that she got absolutely everything she wanted right down to shelfs so she could put up pic`s of her family because, to quote "we are so deserving, we`ve made the sacrifice".

  mind you this is the same sister who told me "it`s harder for me having my son d.fs than for a mother loosing her child in death".

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  Toesup, that's what I thought, infact I said to her I hope you have never said that to some-one who has lost a child in death. I think you might get punched on the nose
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  Pioneering

  by Sabin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i`ve heard many pioneers claim that they are deserving of material things because they are the ones who make all the sacrifices.

  one claimed that jehovah had made sure that she got absolutely everything she wanted right down to shelfs so she could put up pic`s of her family because, to quote "we are so deserving, we`ve made the sacrifice".

  mind you this is the same sister who told me "it`s harder for me having my son d.fs than for a mother loosing her child in death".

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  Sabin

  I`ve heard many pioneers claim that they are deserving of material things because they are the ones who make all the sacrifices. One claimed that Jehovah had made sure that she got absolutely everything she wanted right down to shelfs so she could put up pic`s of her family because, to quote "we are so deserving, we`ve made the sacrifice". MInd you this is the same sister who told me "it`s harder for me having my son D.Fs than for a mother loosing her child in death". What a stupid cow. Do you think that Jehovah is so busy looking out for the pioneers making sure they get all the extras cause their just so amazing, that he hasn't noticed all the children dying of starvation every day?
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  Was this crazy crap going on in your hall as well?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so any way i wonder if this kinda of activity is the norm in halls?

  my wife has my youngest boy calling an older couple in the hall grampa and grandma, my oldest daughter called another older brother grandpa, and the ms that is studying with my two oldest boys on the down low (like i don't know), he's calling g them his boys.

  what the he'll?

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  Yes I agree with cappytan on this. IT IS ABSOLUTLY WRONG. In this day & age & especially with what we have just witnessed with the R.C there is no way your children should be referring to anybody this way, unless they are long standing friends or members of the family. My kid`s are in their 20`s now, even 15yrs ago I never aloud it, I made it clear "you are not their auntie or uncle. Pissed off some of the oldies but I didn't care. You need to protect your children. & no I`m not being extreme, I`ve seen it happen & the consequences have been terrible for the families involved. Adults that tell kids to mind there elders are putting them in a lions den. If others don't like it that you say no to this then tell them to SOD OFF! your kids are first