QMF, hello it`s very nice to meet you. Why are you on this forum asking us these questions? If what you claim you feel about the org is true & you are so sure of it why are you shouting so loud to defend it? Believe in God & the org goes hand in hand according to them, you cannot have one without the other. The org teaches that God is almighty & yet you can question him, doubt him, but don't question the W.T. this doesnt add up to me. It feels as if there is something here your not admitting to yourself. You may well have spoken to other elders about your doubts & they may have been kind & loving, however you have not confessed the whole truth have you? you have held back, you have not told them you on this forum & you have no intension of doing so. Your not trying to prove us all wrong, your trying to prove that W.T. is right. The argument is within you. The very thing quite often that we don't want to discuss, in your case the W.T is the very thing that is bothering us the most, we push it away because we fear what it will reveal bout us or what will happen to us. You are very defensive toward us when there is no reason to be so, & that I find troubling, for you of cause. I stand to be corrected on everything I say & I certainly hope this hasn't cased you offense. I look forward to reading your next post. SABIN.
Posts by Sabin
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Lurker trying to gain clarity
by questioningmyfaith inhello all, i would like to first say that i am basically questioning my faith in god.
i am not negative towards the wt at all.
so honestly i am to concerned with more ad hominem attacks towards the wt because i still love the organization and the people in it.
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Sabin
The Collins dictionary says a generation is the average time between 2 generations of a species, about 35 years for humans. so if a man had his son when he was 30yrs old in 1914, they are both from the same generation. If the son goes on to have his own child at age 30 in 1944, that man is part of his fathers & his childs generation but the child & grandfather are from different generations. That's what how I always understood it, is this what your talking bout here or have I mis read something? -
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Humanism and Witnisam.
by The Rebel inwell it seems for many on this board the time came to leave the w.t and cross the bridge in to a real world.
speaking for myself l feel i did not enter the cold and lonely world i was lead to believe i was entering.
rather i have discovered it was no great loss leaving a world that had protected me with false, dreams, fantazy and false promises.. but what have i really achieved by my leaving that i value?.
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Sabin
what do I love about being out, everything is in colour, I love being on the forum, look forward everyday to reading all your post I love the fact that we are all so different married/divorced/straight/gay/men/woman, all different ages/experiences/opinions & yet I`ve noticed that as soon as someone is distressed about something in their lives everyone rally`s to support them with kind words & advise. I tell you I`ve found more comfort & laughter here than I ever got at the kingdom hall. It`s like breathing the fresh air of the country after a lifetime in the polluted city. Thank you all. We are all amazing.
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Inspiration, inscripturation
by Doug Mason inthe apostle paul stated at 2 timothy 3:16: all scripture is inspired of god.
the phrase inspired of god translates the compound greek word theopneustos, meaning, literally, god-breathed or breathed by god.
this is the only occurrence of this greek term in the scriptures.
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Sabin
Yeah! I don't really know what your talking about but it looks good. I`m sorry I`m just not that educated. -
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Uk most sadistic woman a JW???
by paradisebeauty ini found this article, about a woman who had foster kids and she tortured and abused them, the article says she was a jw.
she was in jail for 12 years, now she is released .... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2993067/made-sleep-barn-eat-vomit-suffer-vicious-beatings-uk-s-sadistic-mother-never-let-jail-three-children-abused.html.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3233100/those-evil-eyes-never-change-victims-britain-s-sadistic-mother-speak-fury-torturer-seen-shopping-following-early-release-prison.html.
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Sabin
Not only was she a JW but also a narcissistic cow. Those youngsters that lived through that have no idea how truly amazing they are. I hope they have a wonderful life as they deserve it & Madam spry can rot in hell. How long do you think it will be before the jdub`s reinstate her? OMG their knocking on my door, am I going to answer it no I`m busy talking to my friends on the forum. -
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If they go bankrupt, so what?
by maksutov init seems likely that the watchtower is worried about its finances, given the downsizing, property schemes, and money-grabs we have been seeing over the last few years.
perhaps they suffered badly from the financial crisis.
for sure, there will be more expenses to come from child abuse payouts.
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Sabin
It doesn't matter if they do or don't, the ones at the top will do just fine the ones at the bottom will continue to suffer. -
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Sabin
This overlapping generation, I remember when the WT study 1st came out about it, I was really surprised cause that was how I always saw it. I could have given them this info over 20yrs ago. I don't get half the shit they go on about. Why are they going on bout it all the time I thought it was Jah`s name that was important. All we got do is be like Jesus to the best of our ability, that means try to be loving & kind doesn't it. -
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Need advice: Intimacy with my wife almost non existint because she considers me an apostate
by goingthruthemotions injust on of the perks of being an apostate who is married to a branwashed, blinded jw woman.
you know, we have been married for ~27 years....most of which we had nothing to do with the piece of shite cult.
up till the begining of 2014 was when i woke up.
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"So that we will not be confused with salesmen, it is best not to mention the donation arrangement unless we are asked..."
by Island Man in"so that we will not be confused with salesmen, it is best not to mention the donation arrangement unless we are asked how our work is financed.".
this damning quote is found on page 1 of the september 2015 our kingdom ministry, the last sentence in the 3rd bullet point under the sub-heading how to do it.
this quote amounts to an implicit admission that the jw practice of mentioning the donation arrangement to householders at the door, makes them look like door to door salesmen.. why would "jehovah's organization" be engaging in a practice that is nothing more than a transparent attempt at undercover soliciting?
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Caleb, I don't read this stuff anymore so I haven't seen this so all I can say is WTF!. -
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Is it really that great being one of the Governing Body Members?
by John Aquila inmovie stars travel to, or buy their own private beaches, they get invited to fun parties, and are able to buy not one, but several fast sport cars like jay leno.
they can buy their own planes and helicopters and fly them like harrison ford.
(how much fun would that be?
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Sabin
Manipulative Psychopaths do well in business, politics, & other professions (running a religious organization) because of their ability to con others into believing they are honest & ethical & have talent, experience & a flair for leadership. My new name for them PUPPETMASTERS, cause they pull all the strings & their loving it.
@ john Aquila, you don't get it cause your not an asshole!