Posts by Sabin

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Need advice

by Darkknight757 in

hi.i've been pouring over this site for the past few days looking for some advice and i hope there is someone here that can help a guy out.

i'm desperate.....short bio: i came into the organization after high school and shortly after married a wonderful girl who was born-in.we have been happily married now for nearly 20 years and things were well until 2015 hit.

by the way, i currently serve as an elder and have the ""privilege"" of being the "watchtower overseer".. either here nor there, we were told we would never have children but late last year my wife became prego!!

Sabin

Hello Darknight, it is so nice to meet you. You & your wife obviously have a very loving relationship, that is the most positive thing here. The trust she has for you will be essential to her waking up to the Borg. The others here are right you have a perfectly good reason for stepping aside (not down) so go for it. The time you gain spend with your wife, go for drives to no-where so she can just talk, walk & hold her hand, have a weekly movie night & watch happy films ect. You get the idea, build even more on the trust you already have.

The loss of two, wow, you both sound very brave individuals. Your wife sounds like an amazing woman. The emotional strain for her must be huge, I think the most helpful thing for you both would be to seek out a good Psychologist, you are not required to tell anyone that your doing this, it is personal to you & your wife. You may go together or alone or separately there are no fixed rules. A woman may prove to be the best bet for your wife. Most people can say sorry or give advise which we are all doing here however speaking to a trained professional who will listen as you pour yourself out can really help in the healing process & you can be sure that it will go no further. Go talk to your GP, they usually have good recommendations. BIG HUG for you both. Sabin.

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Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?

by Tenacious in

i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

was it the wts and all its crap?

was it something you read?

Sabin

So are you saying that you believe in survival of the fittest? Natural selection?

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Yearbook - will they drop figures that show a decline?

by freddo in

do you think the yearbooks will stop showing negative information as the numbers stagnate or even drop?

Sabin

They have never shown negative info about themselves in the past why would the start now. Anything negative applies to everybody else, never the borg.

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How Cultish are the JW's?

by xjwsrock in

first off, i certainly agree the jw's are a cult.

but i'm sensitive to black-and-white thinking now.. so, where do they rank on the scale?

think of a cultish religion scale from 0-10.. consider the likes of unitarian universalism vs baptist vs amish vs charles manson.. where do you think jw's fall on the scale?.

Sabin

You know I had a thought (dangerous I know) . When they calculate how destructive an earthquake is I believe they go on how many lives it has claimed first, before damage & cost, also in that cost would be the psychological trauma for those still alive.

You have to now consider not only literal life but also psychological. So a person die's from saying no to blood is one, the trauma caused to the family is many. A person commits suicide is one, the trauma caused to the family is many. ETC. you get my point.

So if we go from say the last 100 years you would be looking at a 9 possibly a full 10. We shouldn't calculate something like a cult on our own experiences but should take into account everyone involved.

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Redefining "fair"

by wifibandit in

in light of all the reassignments, i can't help but feel that this directed to those who gave their lives and now are being kicked out.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uou-fbkg0y.

Sabin

WTF! Are they for real. When do they ever apply this to themselves.

Never flatter or put on a false front. I say again WTF!

Do they not realise there is a big difference between fairness & justice.

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I love astronomy!!! It's the coolest!!

by DATA-DOG in

too bad it blows the gb's dogma of a 6,000 year old human race out of the water, as does science in general.

lol!!

ancient structures were often built to align with celestial bodies.

Sabin

DD, they got a new globe out, during the day it's the world, at night when you switch it on it show's all the constellation's. You would love it. It look's so pretty in the picture. I think they sell it in the National Geographic shop.

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The fade did not work

by BeautifulMind in

not long after learning ttatt, my hubby and i decided it would be best for us to fade.

his entire family is in, but not in the same cong.

we made it to the region convention and one sunday meeting after that.

Sabin

Beautifulmind, There is no love in that religion at all & what's worse they are out of touch with reality & what life is all about.

You are so right, the thing is with JW is they live with box's. Everything is in some kind of box, there's the jw box & the worldly box. You go to field service group & your in a box inside the big jw box, the Reg pioneer box, Aux pioneer box, elder box, ms box etc. Then you go out God bothering & put all the ones in the big worldly box into their own little box's. The catholic box, atheist box, evolutionist box & so on. Then if they respond you put them in to yet another box, R.V box, mag box, study box with the hope you will get them out of the worldly box & into the JW box. Hell that's a lot of box's. That is why when you listen to them & they are in the cult mode they have a personality like cardboard. They are talking to box's there is no personal interest from some-one like that, they dont know how to talk to a PERSON. If your some-one who doesn't want to live life in a box your Fu.....ed, no choice but to walk..

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Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christians. It's impossible.

by DATA-DOG in

good morning.

i was just checking out the forum and something occured to me.

jws simply cannot be christians.

Sabin

I believe there is a method to their madness. Yes they do believe firmly in Jesus, his ransom sacrifice is what will ultimately save everybody. However to put Jesus on the peddle stool would mean they have a responsibility to live up to the way he treated others, to put Jehovah (the God of the old Testament, in most peoples view) a God of war gives them the perfect excuse to be BASTARDS. That's why they come out with crap like "if we were under law you would be stoned". It's just another way they can keep control. That's my opinion, & what has brought me to this conclusion? it's because they never really talk about Jesus in any real depth, they skip around him, even though the Christian cong is founded on his name, he being the head of it.

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need input: why does my wife do this. when at the meeting she is always nodding her head in agreement

by goingthruthemotions in

so this is just so nauseating to me when she noddes her head in agreement and in a low voice or sound does a "mmm uh" in agrrement.

but here is the deal, she never aswers at the meetings.

she doesn't go out in service often.

Sabin

Does she do this when you watch a documentary? Or if some-one is telling her a piece of news?

It may just be one of her funny little quirks, (habit) or because its what is expected of her. Does she know she's doing it? I didn't think you went to the meetings any more.

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Hilarious Whatsapp message received - FIRST day after Big D

by cognitivedizzy in

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friends

a hilarious stupid wa message is being circulated amongst jws in my area / country.. i had a hearty laugh at the ignorance and stupidity and brainwashed mentality, different people may express different emotions so you have been warned.

day one after armageddon it seems ages since we last heard the gunshots and screams, today has been really quiet.

the last few weeks have been sheer terror.

Sabin

Sometimes humans just dont look past their own noses. I remember when hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans I was talking to an older sister & I said that Jehovah made sure all his people were at an assembly, she said to me "Don't ever say that, what about the ones in divided households who lost their children/parents/brothers/sisters etc, boy I felt ashamed. I was young & stupid just like this person. This is how the WTS teaches people to think. I was glad that sister corrected my thinking cause when the Boxing day tsunami happened I heard so many saying at least JDubs were o.k. Jehovah looked after them the ones on the ministry on higher ground survived I was able to say the same thing "Don't ever say that". This bloody Borg makes people callous & judgemental, selfish & heartless that's why the honest hearted ones are getting out. I think that that story shows the real sad condition that is the thinking of Jehovahs Witnesses.