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Hi, I'm new

by clearbrook5.0 in

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hi, i used to be a jw, but too many things bothered me.

this is a good site.

thanks..

s0rt3d

Hello clearbrook5.0 I'm sort of new too. You'll find it helpful to be here! Am looking forward to reading your story when you decide to share it.

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A Lurker taking a step out of the shadows

by AlmightyDog in

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i have been lurking on this site and others for a couple of years now, and i feel it is time to step out and say "hello!

" when i first began investigating my beliefs, it was innocent enough.

i had been reading an article on scientology, thinking; "wow, these people are just plain nuts!!!

s0rt3d

Here is the link to the JWfacts info.

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/fear-cult-mind-control.php

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A Lurker taking a step out of the shadows

by AlmightyDog in

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i have been lurking on this site and others for a couple of years now, and i feel it is time to step out and say "hello!

" when i first began investigating my beliefs, it was innocent enough.

i had been reading an article on scientology, thinking; "wow, these people are just plain nuts!!!

Re your wife, I look at the situation as if the brainwashed person is an addict. An alcoholic, for example, won't admit he needs help or that anything is wrong until it clicks in his own mind. Someone who is still in and devoted can't see or understand the logic of the REAL truth. It will take time and lots of patience. I'm sure others on the board in similar situation will be very helpful.

You've got to try to create doubts in her mind ever so subtly and carefully. Timing is crucial. Whatever happens continue to be loving and kind and all that a good husband can be. She'll eventually see that you aren't evil and may be willing to quietly give some thought to the concerns ('apostate' views) that you have.

I strongly recommend a reading of Steve Hassan's 'Combatting Cult Mind Control' before you renew your attempts to help your family out of the cult.

(Look at JWfacts - there is information there on mind control.)

Good luck in your efforts to free your family.

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Highdose in a bit of a mess... but in a good cause

by highdose in

i am once again trying really hard to come off the pills ( anti depressants) i've been off them for 3 days, am having the most awful withdrawal symtoms.

inculding terrible vertigo!

i just looked up the offical symtoms of coming off my brand of meds... this is the list.

s0rt3d

Quick 'Hello' highdose - to ask how you're doing, if you've checked with your doctor and to wish you a better week than the last, in coping with the effects of coming off the meds.

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Highdose in a bit of a mess... but in a good cause

by highdose in

i am once again trying really hard to come off the pills ( anti depressants) i've been off them for 3 days, am having the most awful withdrawal symtoms.

inculding terrible vertigo!

i just looked up the offical symtoms of coming off my brand of meds... this is the list.

s0rt3d

Yes, minimus is correct in saying your doc should be involved. Is it possible from half dose to have gone down to quarter dose for a month or two (whatever timescale your doctor recommends) before cutting it out completely?

(Repetition for emphasis: check your doctor) Please be careful and do take good care of yourself - this can have very serious consequences, as I'm sure you know!

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So which makes more sense? Sex or no sex in the "new system"?

by stillstuckcruz in

obviously jah wouldn't allow for millions of pregnancies in the new system for fear of the same problem today of overpopulation.

so would he throw in sex but not allow for the women to become pregnant?

or would there be just no sex at all?

s0rt3d

There is a green book, called, I think, 'Survival into a Paradise Earth,' which the discusses the population logistics of living forever. It was released in either the late 70's or early 80's.

What's the point of speculating? Besides, real study of the Bible raises SERIOUS doubts about the interpretation held by the WBTS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLTiJVo5MhQ

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Highdose in a bit of a mess... but in a good cause

by highdose in

i am once again trying really hard to come off the pills ( anti depressants) i've been off them for 3 days, am having the most awful withdrawal symtoms.

inculding terrible vertigo!

i just looked up the offical symtoms of coming off my brand of meds... this is the list.

s0rt3d

Is it possible to wean yourself off? That works for some meds and makes the transition from on to off smoother.

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Hey southern.finesse...

by s0rt3d in

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s0rt3d

Yes, did PM you. But not sure if you were able to read the message. Wasn't just recommending the bk but also pointing to info that analyses/discusses the bk. Here are some links:

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/fear-cult-mind-control.php

http://s0rt3d.blogspot.com/2010/07/steven-hassans-combatting-cult-mind.html

Good Luck and best wishes in your efforts!

(P.S. click the 'mail' icon next to your name at the top of the page, next to 'LOGOUT' for the full message. If you get an error message click the icon a second time. That should work.)

s0rt3d

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Hey southern.finesse...

by s0rt3d in

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Did you ever know of a elder wanting montary comp for doing a sheparding visit?

by highdose in

i knew an elder who would help and support those in the cong, but in return he expected some kind of compensation such as: goods brought for him or his family, services given for free etc.. this elder had a working class job but lived a very middle class life style because of this unspoken arrangement.

great holidays, new cars and his wife was very much the queen bee of the cong.

hardly wore the same thing twice and delighted in patronising the other sisters who she considered beaneath her.

s0rt3d

In the village that I once served in there was an elder sort of like that. He was the PO. Loved to eat and you'd win his favor if you fed him. He was especially nice to those who would be able to do him favors - let him use the car, give him or his family lifts, run errands for him - you get the pic.

He was falsely humble and loved the power his position gave him: he'd use it as an excuse to pry into your and other's affairs and seemed to want to find dirt on people so he could 'beat' them in private meetings and from the platform. (Guess it made him feel more 'holy' and righteous, good about himself.) He'd pop in unannounced at people's homes - hoping, I think, to catch them 'out' or maybe get a free meal. He excused his behaviour by calling it 'caring for the flock,' showing an interest in them.

He was smug and loved to criticize other elders, find fault with them. If you were too friendly with those whom he disliked you could be sure he'd try to make you unhappy. If you were a bro. you got no 'decent' parts in the meetings, if any at all. He frustrated the hell out of one Special Pioneer elder that was sent to help out as he wasn't given any responsible parts on the meeting for weeks!

Remember those service meeting parts that were to be used just for addressing the needs of your own congregation? He'd tailor those talks to target members of the Cong. who crossed him. Small cong. You couldn't help but know who he was talking about. In one case I know of he'd been untrue (lied) about the person he targeted but I couldn't - didn't? - want to believe it: he was an elder, the PO, in good standing.... Later I found out he really had lied! From the platform too!!!

Anyway, to get back to topic, he didn't outright ask for money but did expect to rewarded materially.