i would like to relate one other story, not related to the history. Berta came to visit us in Ohio. Two of her sisters were there, Rae and Lona, as well as her older brother Frank, and my mother and me. We all had lunch with her. My grandfather Frank paid for lunch and gave Berta several hundred dollars, which would be worth several thousand dollars today. He was not a Witness. The rest of the family said that this was a gift from Jehovah. Even though I was a zealous Witness at the time, I was offended. It was not a gift from Jehovah. It was a gift from my grandfather, Frank.
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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie
by Farkel init was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.
he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.
up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.
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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie
by Farkel init was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.
he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.
up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.
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larc
I thought I would like to make my obervations of Berta. She had a soft southern accent, even though she had spent most of her life in the north and west. She came across as a Southern Belle. Her atire could only be described as classy. It was a cut above the cloths of the day, either Witness or nonWitness. I have wondered how she could dress so well. Perhaps the local congregation loved her so much that they helped her out financially. I doubt that. Perhaps she was sent money from Bethel. I don't know, but I don't think she could have done this on her own.
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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie
by Farkel init was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.
he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.
up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.
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larc
Ratboy, How so? Regarding what? Did Berta flirt with me? I don't know. I was oblivious to it. My wife said she did. That is tenuous evidence. I have not gone through the old albums to find Berta's photo, but I will. Frankly, I am not in a hurry. A photo will add precious little to this story. Farkel, the picture Jan is referring to, was taken many years later, when she was much older. The picture I have is of a woman in her late 40's or early 50's, who was still very striking in appearance.
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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie
by Farkel init was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.
he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.
up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.
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larc
Lady Lee, could you add one of my works? It is Our Suday School Lesson, or something like that. Yes, I misspelled Sunday, so it should be easy to find on search. Most of my work is analytical in nature. This is the only piece I did that was creative.
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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie
by Farkel init was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.
he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.
up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.
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larc
Farkel, what do you think of this? Berta confessed in her 70's. She died at the age of 72. I think she knew that she was about to meet the grim reaper, and it was a death bed confession.
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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie
by Farkel init was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.
he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.
up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.
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larc
TMS, Knorr certainly knew about the relationship between Rutherford and Berta. In 1939, Rutherford, Knorr, Berta, and Bonnie and William Heath traveled to Europe together. Why do you think that Knorr let Berta off the hook when she confessed when she was in her 70's? It was because Berta and Knorr were good friends.
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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie
by Farkel init was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.
he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.
up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.
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larc
I want to thank you for all the imortant work you have done on finding facts about my family. Yes, I can take the dusty facts and bring them to life, because I lived it or knew people who did. Could you do me a favor? Could you contact me at: [email protected]. I would like you to look up a few things for me, but they are not related to the subject here.
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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie
by Farkel init was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.
he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.
up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.
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larc
I just wrote a very long post, but I hit the wrong button, so let me try this again. Frank is my grandfather, he had a brother George, and four sisters, Carrie, Lona, Rae and Berta. He had two sons, Caroll and Leslie, and one daugher, Virginia or Mary Virginia, my mother. The two sons were born in North Carolina. My mother was born in Akron, Ohio. When she was 5 years old her mother died at the age of 35 of tuberculosis. At the funeral, Rae and Lona comforted her by saying that she would see her mother again in Paradise. Her father later remarried, but it was was short lived. She was mean to my mother, the evil step mother, and my grandfather divorced her. My grandfather did live on North Main Street. I was there many times in my childhood. In North Carolina, he and his mother helped establish a Methodist church. In Ohio, he never went to church. He told me that he finds God in nature. In the depression, Frank was a crane operator at BF Goodrich and he had a moving business. He lost that business because of the depression. I remember 20+ years later that he had stuff in his attic that people wanted moved but never came back to get. Frank liked to smoke cigars and I liked the smell of them in his living room. He looked like Winston Churchill. He told me once, that if life had been differnt, he would have liked to have become a lawyer. Frank Denton was Carrie's husband. Carrie spent most of her adult life in a mental hospital after Denton woke up one night and found his wife standing by the bed with a knife in her hand.
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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie
by Farkel init was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.
he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.
up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.
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larc
There is a lot of detail here, Leolaia, and I will have to take notes to address it all. Let me give further perspective on the family and come back later with more detail. Frank was the oldest in the family. He had a brother, George, and four sisters, Rae, Lona, Carrie and Berta. He had two sons Carroll and Leslie and a daughter, Virginia, or, Mary Virginia, my mother. Frank did live on North Main Street in Akron. I had been there many times in my childhood. My mother's mother died when she was 35 years old of tuberculosis. Rae and Lona told my mother who was five at the time, that she would see her mother again in Paradise. Later, Frank remarried, but the marriage did not last long. She was very mean to my mother, the evil step mother. I think I made a misake about Berta working in a factory. My wife said that, but I have no recollection. Perhaps, my wife remembers what was written about Albert in the Census. Berta as a clerical worker, still did not give her the credentials to be a dietician for Rutherford. During the great depression, Frank worked as a crane operator for BF Goodrich, and did also have a moving business, which he lost as a result of the depression. I remember in the '50's he had boxes in his attic of stuff that people wanted moved, but never came back to get it. Frank liked to smoke cigars and I liked the smell of them in his living room. He looked like Winston Churchill. He told me once that if life had been different, he would have become an attorney. He used to make fun of the Witnesses. Regarding hell fire, he said to me on several occasions, regarding hell fire, "we used to believe in the fire works". In North Carolina, he and his mother were responsible for establishing a Methodist church. In Ohio, he never went to church. He told me that he found God in nature.
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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie
by Farkel init was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.
he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.
up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.
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larc
The newspaper in question is the Akron Beacon Journal. Frank's sons were Carrole and Leslie. I had the same problem finding records when I took a trip to North Carolina. Frank filled out the application for his brother's marriage license. On it, he wrote, FS Teel. Perhaps, this is the way it appears in the census record.