Posts by Larry

I got this e-mail this morning. Could anyone help me with some words of encouragement for my friend? Or at least let me know the current standing with the BORG re: Leukemia. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Peace - LL

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My sister-law is in the hospital now fighting for her life.....She has Leukemia..The dreaded blood disease cancer...As you well know her and my brother are refusing a blood transfusion which could prolong her life (She's only 35) I thought the borg in brooklyn change their rules about blood like they did with organ transplants? (They should have been sued for that one)

I told my brother about a method using her own blood but they both shook their heads and said no. So we are just watching a life drift away right before our eyes.Its so sad.

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When LOVE surpasses Religion

by Larry in

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hi folks :) my egypt trip was great, here's a link to some of the pictures: http://nojusticenopeace.homestead.com/egypt1.html.

but the purpose of this posting is to express my sentiments about the death of my jw aunt over the weekend.

as many of you know i have very strained relationship with my dub family - being around them is the last thing i want to do.

Larry

Hi folks :) My Egypt trip was great, here's a link to some of the pictures: http://nojusticenopeace.homestead.com/Egypt1.html

But the purpose of this posting is to express my sentiments about the death of my JW Aunt over the weekend. As many of you know I have very strained relationship with my Dub family - Being around them is the last thing I want to do. But my Aunt was dying of cancer - its spread throughout her body.

By way of background, my Aunt was like a mother to me. My real mother raised seven children so she didnt have the free time to spend with me like my aunt. My aunt lived with us and took me everywhere, while at the same time, she taught me many things.

I remember when she was worldy, smoking her cigarettes and hanging out. In fact, I recall her sneaking a smoke or two after she was baptized. I was young at the time, so I really didnt know how to judge like a regular Dub. All I knew or was concern about was her and where we were going to next.

My aunt touched everybody she came in contact with. My theory is that people could see the genuineness in her heart. You know the type, just good hearted people - It doesnt matter what veneer, mask or religious facade they display, you could see right through it and ascertain the sincerely and goodness of the person.

Back to the story - She was placed in Hospice care, and while she was there in pretty good shape, she constantly requested to see me. I finally said, OK Ill drive my family to Atlanta during the Thanksgiving holiday. However, last Wednesday I got a call that she took a turn for the worst and the Hospice doctor give her 24 - 48 hours to live. I caught a flight that night and saw her. When I walk into her room all my Dub family was there - I said Hi, and went right to my Aunt. I just blocked everybody out while holding her hand and speaking with her. She was in and out of consciousness but, she was glad to see me. After speaking with her my Dub family gave me the standard greetings they give to Disassociated people, whom they are forced to speak with under emergency situations. That was difficult to take because when I was a Dub the greetings were much different and I felt like I was part of the family, instead I felt like an outsider. It could have been much worst, but we both focused on the main reason we were there - My Aunt.

I was able to stay the night with my Aunt, and to said what was in my heart before she died. The main reason I went to see my Aunt was because I know that no matter what the BORG dictates to it members, she always loved me. The connection and bond we had between us was real and special. Other members of my Dub family may say they love me, but I dont feel it - I never have. Im not saying they dont, but I never felt it. I felt it with my Aunt - when she said it, I believed her.

According to todays standard my Aunt was young - 65. Incidentally, we have the same birthday - Jan. 3.

The love we had for each other was stronger than religion - Much Love Aunt Freda :)

~ Love Larry

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Gone Fishing (Down The Nile)

by Larry in

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i will be in egypt for the next two weeks and when i return i will be pretty tied up with work, school, and the family.

so this will be probably be my last post for a while.

if anything new developments occur please e-mail me.

Larry

I will be in Egypt for the next two weeks and when I return I will be pretty tied up with work, school, and the family. So this will be probably be my last post for a while. If anything new developments occur please e-mail me. I'm with you all in the struggle - Much love,

PS - I plan to wear my Silentlamb commemorative T-shirt in Egypt, so when I return I'll try my best to post a picture of me in front of the pyramids wearing my T-shirt

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I miss you guys...

by MrMoe in

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so many new people... but it seems so many people are gone and the threads whiz by so fast i can't keep track.

mostly tho, i am jsut over the dubs.

but lately, i find myself missing the old board, the way things were.

Larry

Thanks for the Realness Moe -

"and i am not sure I would have stayed sane this year had not been for the therapy I got here."

I feel ya on that, I felt that way in '97.

"Looking back, I am such a different person than I was before, and yet, I never changed..."

- Amen! Great words for a poem or a song.

"Can't go back, just move forward. Enjoying the simple things, soaking it all in. Just want to live my life. And what a beautiful life it is. "

- Words to live by.

Peace - LL

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What about our right to face OUR accusers?

by LFitzwater in

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the wts is so big on having the right to face your accusers that they force small children to confront their rapists.

after all if one is going to be accused of rape doesn't he have the right to face his accuser?

puke!

Larry

Laurie & Safe4Kids - It was nice meeting you. One thing I experienced at the March is - We are not in this alone. Our united efforts will not be in vain.

Peace my Sister - LL

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WT PR Statement - silentlambs march

by silentlambs in

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this was read and given to all media at the march.

the outrage is to great to express, who are these people?

silentlambs .

Larry

Thanks Bill -

They are missing the point and purposefully doing so (nothing new). Regardless of their current rhetoric - What about the many victims that were hurt, betrayed and terrorized due to their policies, written or implied? Where's the apology? Not only with the child abuse issues , but with the blood issues, civilian military service, failed prophecies, discouragement from attending college, etc. They are avoiding the issue again. I'm sure many of us can testify, myself included, that the Elders told the victims and their parents to 'leave it in the hands of Jah' or showed them the scripture that said 'don't take your brother to court, etc.' Bill, if I rememeber correctly, you even recorded the direction given to you from the Headquarters on the Dateline program.

People's lives were damaged or lost due to their polices and ignorance. Should we just act like it didn't happen, swept it under the rug, blame the victim, or blame the local elders for mishandleing the case? This isn't right - Accept Responsibility For Once! I hope the 'logic' that attracted the JW's to the BORG will be the same 'logic' that helps them to see the hypocrisy.

Thanks again for the update.

Peace - LL

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WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE ORGANIZATION?

by minimus in

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we've heard how some are convinced that loyal witnesses would do almost anything if they were told by the organization to do it.

some have even suggested killing if that's what was required.

how far would you have gone for the organization when you were in its clutches?

Larry

Mim - Regrettably I would have died for the BORG without hesitation. I would have refuse a blood transfusion for me or my family. In fact the few times that my wife was in the hospital, one of the first things out of my mouth was "I will not accept blood under any circumstances, it's a non negotiable stance." I would have consider any trial or tribulation as an honor for the BORG. Yes, I was hooked and thoroughly brainwashed. :-/ That's why the pain was so deep for me when I realize I was being lead astray, b/c I was ready to die or sacrifice my family for an illusion - and the shit almost happen. Whew - A tough road to go down.

Peace - LL

Edited by - Larry on 1 October 2002 14:23:43

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