Posts by Larry
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BRAG with PHOTOS -->>> your neck of the woods
by Rabbit ineverybody knows how much texans like their lone star state...someone started trashing our state here recently.
there is good and bad, ugliness and beauty everywhere.... so-o-o...everybody ... i'd like to see some pics of the natural beauty, where you live ?
or places you'd like to live, too.. i took these yesterday.... .
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Blacks can't speak English - Bill Cosby
by closer2fine insorry if this was already posted, i did a search & didn't see it.. .
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?article_id=38565.
minority report.
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Larry
Interest thread - Thanks for posting that Closer :)
I echo the points already said, such as:
"I like Bill Cosby and he has a good point..Such is not the case however and what I dont like is that people take the actions of these few uneducated, ignorant people and lump ALL minorities in together as belonging to that class of people..Because there is no such thing as 'black accents'...Ebonics is slang..period." ~ Flower
"Just imagine if a Rush Limbaugh or a white republican said these things?" ~ 40
"People like to think that we live in a country where ANYONE can succeed if they try hard enough. That is simply not true...And this is still only a small portion of the vicious cycle of American racism." ~ Amac
"American language is a melting pot of different influences because it has had input from so many different nationalities." ~ myauntfanny
"but all races and cultures should take to heart what he said." ~ Corvin
"So when we think of the "culture" associated with Black Vernacular, no one thinks anymore of Langston Hughes, Alice Walker, stylin' at the pulpit, signifyin', and blues music?" ~ Leolaia
"It's called 'capitalism'. The people who are in control do not care about the poor, they just want to keep them in the inner cities, and then go on and on about how 'anybody can make it' if they really want to!..It is the nature of the powerful who have become successful, and remain so, on the backs of the poor..." ~ talesin
" Like it or not, fairly or otherwise, we're judged by how we speak." ~ Room 215
My thoughts: Bill Cosby, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, MLK, Mal. X, etc. does not speak for the entire Afro-American race. They are people great in their own right, they have many fine points to make, I respect them and their accomplishments, but they don't represent me.
No race has a monopoly on proper speech.
Before the King James version of the bible was produced, English was the bastard 'ghetto' language of the day.
Education is the key to getting a better job, making more money, etc., but it's not the key for being a better human being.
Peace - LL :)
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Beautiful Artwork to Look at!
by Dolllie inwe were discussing this on a previous post!
i just had a chance to look at the "april 8, 2004" awake, with several articles on moses>.
again, i must say, speaking as an artist & an art teacher at the college level, "this pictures/drawings are of excellent quality".
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Would someone post that pic in the Awake, particularly the "Egyptian tomb panting on page 7."
Thanks - LL.
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Is The WTBS Really Crumbling?
by exjdub inthere have been posts and topics about the wtbs imploding and feuding factions in bethel etc.
some have said that the end is near for the wtbs.
is this just wishful thinking...or do you really think that this is a reality?
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Larry
Speaking of the Berlin Wall? Did you know that a piece of the wall is down the block from where I work ( 53rd St. bet 5th and Madison - NYC) I'll try and attach a photo I took the other day.
The BORG will be here as long as people want to be lead.
Peace - LL :)
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Where have all the good sitcoms gone?
by doodle-v inis it just me or does it seem like there arent any really great sitcoms on t.v?.
"friends" hasnt been funny in at least two years.. "frasier" was only funny the first couple of seasons.
"malcom in the middle" and "the bernie mac show" i can tolerate and actually find pretty funny now and again.
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Larry
I was just talking about that the other day. But to just name a few of the good ones (oldies):
Alice
All in the Family
Good Times
Barney Miller
Happy Days
Facts of Life
Odd Couple
One Day at a Time
A Family Affair
Fat Albert
Three's company
Cheers
Gilligan's Island
Family Ties
Peace - LL :)
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Heading to NY this weekend
by Purza inmy boyfriend and i are heading to ny this weekend.
we decided to drive into ct and stay a night there and then two nights on long island.
any recommendations for restaurants or places to see?
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Just keep in mind the traffic on the Long Island Expressway (L.I.E.). Traffic is a horrible over the weekend - Always keep that in mind. Long Island is a great place to visit, but the first thing that comes to my mind when I hear of L.I. is traffic :(
Fire Island is a winner :)
Peace - LL.
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Larry
Sorry for your pain. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said:
sorry for the relationship I never had with my sister and never WILL have.
It took me years to finally realize that fact with my family. We can't pick our family, we just have to deal with them - for better or for worst. The only time my JDub family deal with me is when money is needed or when someone dies - I find that very insulting. So now I just avoid them, I wish there was a way for me to TOTALLY disconnect from them - They give the meaning of family a very bad name.
Stay strong, and realize that the new generation of hope begans with you and your immediate family.
Peace - LL :)
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Best live CD's?
by DanTheMan in.
i was listening to dire straits on the night in the car today, what a great cd.
your latest trick and on every street are standout tracks, whoever it was playing the sax that night was incredible.. so what are your favorite live cd's?
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Larry
Marvin Gaye - Distant Lover!
LL :)
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UNCLE TOM'S CABIN`was an evil book.
by badboy inso said the golden age in 1927, because it went against racial stereotypes.
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Larry
Uncle Tom's Cabin is a great book. Of course I read it when I departed from the BORG, b/c the 'Friends' didn't really want you to read any book other than the BORG's or any book dealing with race relations - past or present. I vaguely remember the BORG saying something about that book. Anyway, when I read the book it changed my perception of what a real 'Uncle Tom' was. Reminds me of a paper I wrote years ago:
Who Was Uncle Tom?
The last thing anybody would want to be labeled is an ?Uncle Tom? - Those are truly fighting words and understandably so. The term has taken on a negative connotation of , double-crosser, a nemesis to their own people, or a ?Judas Iscariot? of sorts. Uncle Tom is synonymous with unacceptable obedience or a man that will not fight back in the face of racial injustice . Webster?s dictionary defines ?Uncle Tom? as "a black who is overeager to win the approval of whites ." During the civil rights era being identified as an ?Uncle Tom? was equivalent to being called "a white man's nigga." For a conscious person of color to witness the defined behavior of an ?Uncle Tom? is truly repulsive.However, after reading Harriet Beecher Stowe
?s 1852 novel entitled "Life Among The Lowly" or better known as "Uncle Tom?s Cabin" I have revered respect for that fictional character Uncle Tom, because he lived in stark contrast to what we associate with ?Uncle Tom-ism? today. By 1879 there were at least forty-nine stage and minstrel shows that inappropriately portrayed Ms. Stowe?s characterization of Uncle Tom. The Minstrels compromise Uncle Tom?s humanistic & manly aspect for buffoonery content, completely reversing the trust of Ms. Stowe's original intent. It is the minstrel ?Uncle Tom? that epitomizes all the negative legacies we associate with the ?Uncle Toms? of today .The Background of The Book
The actual Uncle Tom was based on Josiah Henson who, in 1830, escaped slavery with his family across the Ohio River to Canada, and became a Methodist preacher, abolitionist, lecturer, and founder of a cooperative colony of former slaves in Canada. His chronicles, published in 1849, accorded Harriet Beecher Stowe with her model of Uncle Tom. The book, Uncle Tom?s Cabin, was highly successful. During the first week of its release, March 20, 1852, the novel sold 10,000 copies. In the first year of it?s publication over 300,000 copies were sold, by 1856 over two million copies were sold. In addition to that, it was published in 13 different languages. Through her book, Ms Stowe is credited by historians with changing the minds and hearts of many Americans and igniting the Civil War. When President Lincoln went to meet her he said, "So you're the little girl that started this big war." James Baldwin called the book "Everybody?s protest novel."One reason Ms. Stowe wrote Uncle Tom?s Cabin was to show the human side to slavery, which was a revolutionary concept at the time. In examining the duel relationship with the slave and slave owner she gave slavery an identity and a voice, thus causing many people, for the first time, to look at slaves as human beings with feelings and emotions in oppose to being view as everlasting chattel.
The Strength of Uncle Tom
On several occasions in the novel it may seem that Uncle Tom was spineless and cowardly. For example: When Uncle Tom?s owner, Mr Shelby, incurred serious debts, he is forced to sell Uncle Tom and a talented five-year-old boy named Harry to avoid financial ruin. Eliza, Harry's mother, overheard Mrs. Shelby talking about the transaction, thus prompting Eliza to run away with Harry. In her attempt she passes by Uncle Tom?s cabin while he is conducting a prayer meeting and tries to convince Uncle Tom to save himself, his wife, and his children to come along with her. Uncle Tom remains loyal his master and does not accompany Eliza on her journey to and across the Ohio River. He says "No, no -- I ain't going...I never have broke trust, nor used my pass no ways contrary to my word, and I never will." It may seem that Uncle Tom was cowardly from this action. However, he was a man of his word, but more importantly he was a man of God. He viewed running away as a disloyal act to his God. He wasn?t ?sucking? up to his master for better treatment, but was throughly convince of doing God?s will.
The courage of Uncle Tom is highlight when his new depraved master, Simeon Legree, orders Uncle Tom to beat one of his slaves named Lucy. Of course Uncle Tom?s conviction forbids him from hitting another human being, in fact he tell his master "if you mean to kill me, kill me; but, as to my raising my hand against any one here, I never shall - I'll die first!" This infuriates Legree, but Tom continues preaching to him "
I?ll give you all the work of my hands, all my time, all my strength; but my soul I won?t give up to mortal man. I will hold on to the Lord, and put his commands before all... I ain?t afraid to die...You may whip me, starve me, burn me, it?ll only send me sooner where I want to go." This only prompts Legree to viciously beat Tom until he is unconscious. Tom never really recovers from that beating.Tom?s persecutions continues, especially since Legree can?t break Tom into doing his will. This time, Legree?s mistress slaves, Cassy and Emmeline escapes. The hound dogs are confused and Legree demands for Tom to
reveal their location. Without hesitation Tom refuses, he even tells Legree that he knows where the females are, but he can not disclose that information. Legree now delegates the pummeling of Tom to his diabolical henchmen, Sambo and Quimbo. These two brutal overseers hate Tom, because they know that Tom was brought there to replace them. After the torturing, Tom is inches from death. But just before he expires he tells Legree "I forgive ye, with all my soul."These are clear examples of Uncle Tom being assaulted with the view of him abandoning his beliefs. However, to the chagrin of his enemies he remained steadfast. True, in nearly all occurrences he was submissive to his white masters, but on the matter of his faith he is unyielding, ultimately dying for the sake of his principles and convictions.
Uncle Tom and Jesus Christ
After reading the novel, one can not help notice the many similarities of Uncle Tom and Jesus Christ. Both are tortured to death, both successfully defies their oppressors and even prays for them at the end. In fact, because of Tom?s patience and love, just before Sambo and Quimbo kills him they realize the error of their ways and ask Tom for forgiveness. This is similar to the robber that was beside Jesus on the cross when he ask Jesus for forgiveness. Children loved Tom, just as the children loved Jesus. Tom, like Jesus consistently forgives the wrongs committed against him and turns to God in times of crisis. As you can see, the Uncle Tom based on Ms. Stowe?s novel was Christ-like and heroic in his behavior.
?Uncle Tom? TodayBased on the characters of the book, it is clear that the modern day ?Uncle Toms? or ?sell outs? should refer to Simeon Legree ?s two stooges, Sambo and Quimbo . They were the traitors of their people, maliciously inflicting pain on the servants for the sake of their master. As is the case today with African Americans who are overeager to win the approval of whites, Sambo and Quimbo ?s services were expendable to their master, he would have dropped them as soon as he found a more willing and effective task master.
When we call someone or hear someone being called an ?Uncle Tom? (and they are numerous), remember that Uncle Tom was not a ?sell out.? In fact, it is a discredit to Uncle Tom for traitorous African Americans to be called by his name. He was a dedicated man of God and never used his position to turn on his fellow slaves and advance himself. His character was grossly exaggerated and perpetuated for over 100 years ago through the minstrel shows produced by white entrepreneurs looking for comic and commercial value instead of staying true to the character created by Ms. Stowe.