Posts by lauralisa

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From men to women

by teejay in

learn to work the toilet seat.

you're a big girl.

if it's up, put it down.. sometimes, we are not thinking about you.

lauralisa

teejay,

Where did you find this rancid pile of shit? This does not seem like you. Mentality like this is so forty years ago... you are not an asshole.... why did you post this?

Uh, guess I won't hold back here

love and ..

laura

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Doomed to be Sad!

by Sirona in

firstly, before i say why i'm doomed to be sad, i'd like to give you the good news : i've got the all clear which means that my malignant melanoma skin cancer is all gone!

the surgery worked, so i dont need any more treatment!

so why am i doomed to be sad?

lauralisa

Hi Sirona,

I had no idea you had been going through such an ordeal. How wonderful to have peace of mind about that...! Okay. No more nude sunbathing for you.

As far as your mother's psychic/foretelling the future abilities go, living well is the best revenge.

It's appalling at times, and amusing at others - to see how a truly ensnared jw will regard virtually any event (good or bad) as an indication of someone's spiritual "standing". I once had a ministerial servant imply that my brother's death may have been prevented by Jehovah if....... whatever.

I have thought very long and hard at times about whether I've ever REALLY known ANY individual jw to be "happy"; I can't think of ONE person who is a jw and who is not plagued with some issue that they must "endure" on a daily basis. They "rely on Jehovah" and "wait for the end".....

In fact, if a jw IS happy, they are suspect! (This world is EVIL!!! This system is ONLY FIT FOR COMPLETE DESTRUCTION!!!) Being miserable is a sort of honor badge they wear. I took mine off and have never been happier in my life.

Take care and thanks for the good news about your health,

laura

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what color are you?

by peaceloveharmony in

hey all, i'm not sure if this has been posted before, so i apoligize in advance if you all have seen it.

what's your color?.

if your birthday is on....... december 23 ~ january 1...............red.

lauralisa

Hi Harmony,

My love and I are both "gold".

"once you find the right person, it will be very difficult to fall in love again"

I don't get this part! Is there a presumption that we're gonna break up here?

LOL, lauralisa

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When You Were Devout, What Was The Most..

by Englishman in

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when you were a devout witness, what were the teachings that you couldnt accept, even though you believed most of the rest?.

heres mine:.

1. we know the bible is true, it proves itself true.

lauralisa

I could never quite shake the initial jolt of "yeah, right... you guys must really think we're STUPID" and quite frankly cold fear of the self-assuming ARROGANCE I experienced when I first read their 'explanation'of the events described in Daniel chapter 12, vs 11-12. (It was contained in an old blue book; can't remember its title.....)

And from the time that the constant feature has been removed and there has been a placing of the disgusting thing that is causing desolation, there will be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. Happy is the one who is keeping in expectation and who arrives at the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days!

They proclaimed that these numbered periods of time had been fulfilled during arcane assemblies where certain publications were released....(1,290 days after some October date (October: always reliable for prophesy fulfillment) in 1919; some major convention in like Cleveland or something) events so monumental that they had to be kept "sealed" for centuries ...not to mention so awe-inspiringly fabulous and integral to the "divine plan" that they were contained in bible cannon...

Gack,

lauralisa

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Disfellowshipped For Being Raped...

by Anne Marie in

dear post reader.... i was that young and pretty sister you may have seen...the one with "all those kids".

the one who stuggled to raise her children alone.

the one who was rarely considered as "wife material" because she was "damaged goods".

lauralisa

Dear Anne Marie,

I am simply dumbfounded after reading your words.

I don't know what hits the hardest for me as a reader - empathy for you for the utterly hideous event that you endured;

disgust and a lingering feeling of nausea and pure hatred for the clueless fools to whom you were forced to look towards for "help;" they are worse than any random perpetrator imo - (I am not shocked by your story, but each time I read of such things I'm aghast with the utter STUPIDITY and IGNORANCE on the part of men who presume to "represent" anything having to do with God, or spirituality or truth, ....)

incredibly stunned by your strength of character and insight.

Please feel warmly welcomed and supported here. I hope to hear more from you.

Peace to you,

lauralisa

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Meet my Lil Man:)

by mommy in

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hey all.

i just got home from the hospital earlier this evening, but i wanted to post a few pics of my lil man for you.

i can't believe he is finally here!

lauralisa

Awe Wendy HE's SO CUTE!!!!

Happy Happy Joy Joy
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Happy happy happy happy !!!!

Love and so glad all is well.... laura

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Depression

by DazedAndConfused in

since leaving the organism i have had a problem with emotional situations.

i have bee labeled "bp", for those that don't know what bp is.....it is bi-polar.

what i am finding is that anyone that shows a behavior that is not in the norm....they are labeled bp.. we are given lithium and a meriad of other me's to correct this "condition".

lauralisa

Hi Dazed,

First of all, depression is horrifying when it has a firm grip on ya and won't let go. It's difficult to think clearly and reason through things. Bipolar disorder is easy to diagnose, but depending on your insurance and access to psychiatrists who aren't fools, it's also easy to misdiagnose....

A question for you:

I NEED TO HAVE A POSITIVE FORUM TO GET OVER THIS SHIT. I NEED TO HAVE POSTITIVE REASSURANCE THAT WHAT I AM DOING IS RIGHT.

I'm sorry I'm not more familiar with the situation you are in; perhaps you've written more about stuff on other threads which I've missed. What are you trying to get over? What are you, uh, doing that you need reassurance for?

You are not alone, and there are positive areas of this forum. If you wish to share more about your concerns, I'll read it, and I'll even care! Really.

Hope you stay well, lauralisa

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Need advice before I paint myself into a corner

by RedhorseWoman in

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okay, here goes once again.....and i hope to bob that this forum doesn't bite the dust the way kent's did.

sorry, kent.

lol.

lauralisa

Hi RHW,

It is a wonderful thing, I've discovered, to have friendships that are not frought with a continual fear of saying, doing, or thinking of something that would "go over the line" relative to any "loyalty to the organization" issue. You could push the envelope with subjects like: is oral sex ok or not, whether so and so's unbelieving mate was a hottie, how can you blame her; should you use your "good" china for whatever? Do tupperware parties suck unless you get a lot of free junk, etc.

When I was active, I had some friendships with other jw women that were quite deep and rewarding. With a few, I could talk about virtually anything that was on my mind, except anything that revealed lack of complete submission to the WTBTS, anything written in a current WT or Kirap! magazine or recently released publication.

I lost one of the best friends I ever had due to this deplorable requirement. After knowing her for decades, keeping in constant touch even though we lived thousands of miles away from each other, sharing marriage, childbirth, divorces, pet deaths, etc, she checked out the religion that had ensnared me so completely and eventually got baptized.

Once, when she was visiting, I picked her up at the train station. After squealing and hugging for a pathetic length of time, we get in the car to leave. She hauls this IMMENSE aromatic to the nth of amazing joint, and smiles, expecting me to say "wow, awesome..." like I normally would have.

I'll tell you, I never had a more excruciating next few months as then. I had been trained to assume that association with someone who deviated from the three or four behavioral modes available to jw's was tantamount to being worthy of death. If one tolerated or mitigated such flagrant disregard for "theocratic order", one could bring death, disorder and utter mayhem to the entire congregation!!! The stories (ahem I mean "accounts") proving this very thing were rampant -and were amazingly similar to really censored Jerry Springer episodes.

I believed (shaking head now) that if I let this event go without some kind of "intervention" (her getting "help"; she was obviously spiritually "weak") that she would like DIE at armagheddon, and I probably would too, and so would my kids, and ......then there's the entire congregation to be responsible for, or the entire district, country, etc.

She is "out" now, and after all of the weird bs from back then, won't return my phone calls or mail or anything, despite my practically pleading with her. We had the kind of unconditional friendship that is rare; we'd seen each other in the most utterly base situations many times - but this grotesque loyalty condition/requirement/contest that the ephemeral borg has with anyone or anything that's precious to you is stronger than the deepest human bond that any two humans can develop or maintain.

I just feel myself turning cold after reading about your situation; I imagine your conflicting desires: restore a good friendship, possibly assisting her "out", etc. vs. will she extend her (quite genuine I'm certain) warmth and acceptance of you ON THE eventual CONDITION that you like "come around" and then just bail, leaving you with betrayal and loss, when you refuse to revert to "control-think"...

As for the other crap that's being discussed in this thread other than the apparent immediate issue for you, I don't even want to know, but I hope that you stay well and unscathed, and let us know what transpires.

thanks, laura

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GOOD GOD!

by SYN in

hehe, all my best threads usually have all-caps in the titles.

this one's a doozy!.

i went out to this nightclub near my work last night (saturday night), and i was having a good old time, when i decided to sit down on a big, flat futon couch near the entrance to one of the dancefloors for a while (it's an outdoors club!).

lauralisa

Hi Syn,

I am a very young looking 44 year old who looks 30, with natural blonde waist-length hair, size 6, yadda yadda. Since my divorce, I've only dated guys much younger than I - (I was gonna tell the age of the youngest, but too embarrassed). The love of my life, the guy I'm going to marry, is seven years younger!

Older women are fabulous. Too many ways to list.

Older women with weird entanglements with ex's and who are pregnant, pregnant and hanging out in places consuming alcohol, are NOT fabulous. No matter how much they ignite your hormones.

I'd say to you: put your butt in a freezer asap, and allow the next opportunity to arise.

Only because I care,

laura

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Help Mommies, I need a Cure

by LB in

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friends

i'm getting the sore throat and i feel chilled.

i'm on the liquids and staying covered up.

anything else you can suggest to beat this thing??.

lauralisa

Hi LB,

I hope you feel better soon. The only thing I can add to the previous list of good advice is avoiding dairy products!

1. Dairy products (milk, ice cream , cheese, etc.) tends to "thicken" your - uh - well, the mucus that is in your ear/nose/throat region.

2. A sore throat - if it is NOT the result of an infection like strep - is usually caused by the slimey stuff from your nose running down the back of your throat.

This is why clear liquids - lots of em - are recommended.

Here's to a snot-free week for you,

laura

ps: Suscarra! LOL! one of the stories I remember the most is the one about the sister whose unbelieving husband STABBED her in the back with a knife because she was intent on going out to a meeting against his wishes. She went to the meeting anyway, because SHE HAD A PART on the school!!! (Like this was an obligation of life/death magnitude.......) After the meeting, she went to the hospital to get her puncture wound stitched up...... The society has used this example to illustrate "dedication". I think it is a good example of "unbalanced..."