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  Our words have so much power!

  by Billygoat in

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  elizabeth and sara... .

  two sisters are doing their math homework together.

  sara is 10 and struggling with her new division homework.

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  lauralisa

  Hi Andi,

  I've missed your comments and ideas lately. You are right on with this thread, and it is a sorely needed lift. You're a sweetie!

  love, laura
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  Effects of molestion--looking for sites

  by ninjaturtle in

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  2. scandals

  i know a couple of people who were molested, and it's very painful indeed.

  i'm looking for websites that explain the effects of various general types of molestation, whether it be rape, pressure, or whatever.

  how can one learn about the effects and be helped to cope?

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  lauralisa

  Hi ninja,

  Try this: http://www.sidran.org

  I can't praise this site highly enough. Another Book, Trauma and Recovery by Judith Lewis Herman, MD, is most helpful if you're looking for a way to get a broad but incredibly salient overview of the afteraffects of trauma.

  Wish you well,

  lauralisa
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  Has Anyone Invited You to the Memorial?

  by Prisca in

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  the memorial is on in just over two weeks' time, and i was wondering:.

  has anyone invited you to the memorial yet?.

  my old cong knows my address and phone number yet no-one has visited or phoned to invite me.

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  lauralisa

  Shelby (A Guest) invited us all!

  If I had the time, I would have asked her about the details i.e. time, date, place, etc.

  Other than that, no invitations. But that is a good thing in my case.

  Interesting thread, Prisca,

  lauralisa
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  Kids and the JW Religion

  by txwild91 in

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  2. friends

  i am a divorced exjw with 3 children who live with their jw dad.

  they are 16, 13 and 11. i am worried about the fact that they were raised as jw's and are now questioning if they want to make this their life or not.

  while that is not a bad thing i am worried because they were immersed in this religion from the time they were born until i left the religion about 3 years ago.

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  lauralisa

  Hi Txwld,

  Welcome to the board. You could not have found a better place for an intense, exciting and accessible source of comprehensive information, advice, and support for issues surrounding jw's and those who have found their way out into the real world.

  I relate to you because I am the non-custodial parent of two sons, ages 12 and 15. I've been out of the organization for over a year. Their father was never a JW. (He has custodial privileges because he earns several hundred thousand dollars more per year than I do, and I chose NOT to become 1) his adversary and 2) bankrupt and 3) he's a good father).

  My concern is how they will adjust to the world. Will they totally go off the deep end? Without the guidelines and principals they now have what will they do? Where do they go to find the guidelines they need?

  YOU are a PRIMARY source of guidelines and principles. You MUST provide them with information with which to reason and to make informed decisions. All parents must provide such things... it's sad that most jw parents simply pass this obligation off and on to the WTBTS, believing that those old guys and their supporting cast of thousands have a grip on "reality". The idea that they are a channel of communication between God and humanity is very (VERY) easily discredited. (And one does not have to be a brain surgeon to figure this stuff out

  They will need YOU to explain how YOU have come to your own conclusions as to why this religion is suspect. With my own children, I tell them fairly bluntly just exactly why I chose to EXIT that controlling and abusive cult, and why I do NOT want them to be deceived by their mind-controlling tactics. I am really specific about just exactly these tactics are - and explain such things to them when they are ready and wanting to have answers.

  You will find an enormous source of information and facts here, not only for your own needs but for theirs.

  Please forgive me for saying this, but your ex sounds like a weirdo: trying to make a come-back with a "worldly" wife? Why do you think he even WANTS to go back? Is his new wife a good step-mother? Is she supportive of his religious - uh - confusion?

  I wish you well, and hope you let us know how things progress for you.

  Warmly, lauralisa
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  Childbearing in THIS time of the End

  by Thirdson in

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  responsible childbearing in this time of the end .

  i heard the talk that formed the basis of this article in the summer of 1987 while attending with my pregnant wife.

  the stress was on not having children and devoting lives to preaching the watchtower's message.

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  lauralisa

  Hi Thirdson,

  First of all, happy birthday to your son! I wasn't a dub then, but I have a son who is fifteen. I was eight months pregnant with my 2nd when I had my first encounter with them at the door in 1989.

  I find it astonishing at this moment that such invasive, dehumanizing "edicts" were promulgated thru the WT, slyly disguised as "counsel." (Of course, after I was enmeshed, I thought it was "God" giving us warnings. Ick!)

  I definitely remember the character judgments that took place among the more ambitious "spiritual" people (frankly, it was simply gossip) as they discussed with concerned expressions the "wisdom" or spirituality of brother/sister "mediocre" after it was divulged they were starting a family.

  Controlling another person's bodily functions is a fundamental tactic used in power-abuse ... no matter how many disclaimers are attached, or how "veiled" or subtle the persuasion.

  If I didn't have my children, I'd have exactly ZERO blood relatives now. Scary.

  Hope you guys have fun tonight! Apostofest!!! Also, Simon, I'm going to be your neighbor in about a month... !

  love, lauralisa
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  For those who've left - any regrets?

  by starfish422 in

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  2. friends

  i left almost nine years ago at age 18; my only real regret was that i was good friends with a young brother and i never said goodbye to him, or even let him know that i was planning to leave (had to leave my parents' home secretly while they were at the meeting one sunday; they had such a hold over me that i could never have stood up to them and told them beforehand).

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  i have no other regrets about leaving; i'm am now happily agnostic and so thankful that i found the strength to break free.. anyone have any similar regrets?

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  lauralisa

  No, no, a thousand times no. And like others have said, I wish I'd come to my senses years earlier than I did.

  Eleven years in the borg, ages 32-43 - my "prime years", actually... acckkkk.

  quality of life quotient since leaving: 60,000,00444,30054895,03934i times a million.

  laura
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  Paper ,scissors,stone.

  by sleepy in

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  scissors.

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  lauralisa

  Hi Sleepy,

  Check this out:

  http://www.worldrps.com

  Have fun! laura
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  Farkel is a liar and a cheat!

  by seven006 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have absolutely had it with farkel's lies and (try new kiddy bathroom bubbles only $3.95 per bottle) his childish attempts to discredit those who still believe in god.

  he is relentless in his (now the one pound tub of the famous amway laundry detergent only 19.95) efforts to shove atheism down our throats.

  i personally am offended by (new amway energy bars in four tasty flavors, box of 12 only $6.95) his blatantly cynical attitude and slamming dialog.. i think his account should be (summers coming, try amway car wax and make your old car look new)!

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  lauralisa

  Forgive me

  Forgive me

  Forgive me

  if this is offensive, but I can't help myself:

  http://www.oddtodd.com/
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  Wow I'm getting married

  by lauralisa in

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  2. friends

  he asked me on friday night.

  wow.

  he's the man of my dreams, and i'm so happy i was able to meet him.

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  lauralisa

  Wendy,

  I'll tell you my date if you tell me yours!
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  Is this it??? JWD Armageddon?????

  by ashitaka in

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  2. friends

  are the fair peoples of jwd turning on each other?

  if so, we might as well leave right now, or get all of this horseshit out of our systems tonight.

  i'll tell you what, any self-respecting jw coming here would see what asses we're all making of ourselves, and stay a witty based on the behaviour their witnessing here.. please people, this is an intervention.

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  lauralisa

  Ashi, you are cool. I am reading this thread, pausing between tokes, and this is playing in the background, this awesome ani defranco song. This is for you:

  Freakshow

  Life in the circus ain't easy
  but the folks on the outside don't know
  the tent goes up and the tent comes down
  and all that they see is the show
  and the ladies on the horses look so pretty
  and the lions are lookin real mad
  and some of the clowns are happy
  and some of the clowns are sad

  but underneath
  there's another expression
  that the makeup isn't making
  life under the big top

  it's about freedom
  it's about faking
  there's an art to the laughter
  there's a science
  and there's a lot of love
  and compliance

  welcome to the freakshow
  here we go...

  we live to hear the slack-jawed gasping
  we live under a halo of held breath
  and when the children raise up a giant shield
  of laughter, it's like they're fending off death
  and we can make something bigger
  than any one of us alone
  and then the clowns will take off their makeup
  and the people will go home

  but life on the outside ain't easy
  no sequins, no elephants
  no parading around
  yeah the tent goes up
  and the tent comes down
  and they're stuck in this fucking town

  you need a lot of love and compliance...

  welcome to the freakshow
  here we go......

  These weird things will pass, and another amazing humanoid event will take place, and we'll participate to some degree, or we won't... we'll learn something though, whether we want to or not.

  This week I have caught myself wondering what it would be like to have my well-seasoned 44 year old mind trapped in the body of a 23 year old..... wishing I had access to a place like this when I was so young. I'd be like four times as wise, perhaps. That would rock.

  lauralisa.