seriously, half day in (already had an argument with the wife this morning about individuality in the organization in which she conceded that a lot of it is based on looks) and this is already getting on my nerves.
i'll post a rebuttal based on my annotations later in the week but one thing i got to get off my mind: saying the feminist movement (women going to work instead of staying home) and the diversity laws (allowing for homosexuality - but also religious freedom, racial discrimination etc.
) caused a lot of the problems in our world right from the stage.. there are less people here than last year - about 500 less..
Thus so-called ethnic cleansing has been carried out in parts of the former Yugoslavia,and genocides have been attempted in Liberia,Burundi,and Rwanda.”
so-called?
godless and people are becoming faithless
Are you suggesting godless people used to be more faithful? In reality, even the faithful are indeed godless. Because there is no god. So there you go. We are are godless---including YOU.
so i've been told there are a few people on her that could help me with this problem?.
to cut a very long story short, i was raised a jw, i left the wt in january to be with my partner, a non-jw.
i was marked for dating, even though i hadn't attended a meeting since december.
Hi Robyn. Are you in the US? Your Aloha made me think so, but your use of the word solicitor made me think not.
There probably isn't much you can do about this. They repeatedly asked you to attend the JC and you didn't. So they did it without you. They always can point out that you were invited. In the US the government doesn't meddle too much within a religion. They never step in and tell a congregation how to run things. Medical iinformation is protected by HIPPA laws, making it illegal for doctors to discuss your health without your permission. There is no such protection for Religion. The elders were practicing their free speech when they announced you were no longer a JW. And you aren't--so it's not slander. If they were harrassing you, you would have a small criminal case, but they probably won't be contacting you at all anymore so there will be no case.
The only other possible case you may have is your job. It's illegal to discriminate against religion on the job. Is that what happened? Did you get fired after your DF? THAT could be a case. But if you had some other arrangement, such as some type of cooperative effort with other JW's, well they get to choose their business partners.
I know you are angry, but you are free now. Use your energy to concentrate on your baby. We'll support you while you work out the grief and adjustment. We all wish we could sue the WT, most of us cannot. Your life is yours now. Congratulations.
So tell us about yourself. Why did you decide to leave? Was it something you read? Someone you met? We love details.
NC
seriously, half day in (already had an argument with the wife this morning about individuality in the organization in which she conceded that a lot of it is based on looks) and this is already getting on my nerves.
i'll post a rebuttal based on my annotations later in the week but one thing i got to get off my mind: saying the feminist movement (women going to work instead of staying home) and the diversity laws (allowing for homosexuality - but also religious freedom, racial discrimination etc.
) caused a lot of the problems in our world right from the stage.. there are less people here than last year - about 500 less..
the diversity laws (allowing for homosexuality - but also religious freedom, racial discrimination etc.) caused a lot of the problems in our world
Is that a politically neutral statement?
eisegesis - Definition 
[ahy-si-jee-sis] (n .) Interpretation, esp. of Scripture, that expresses the interpreter's own ideas, bias, or the like, rather than the meaning of the text
[ek-si-jee-sis] (n .) Critical explanation or interpretation of a text or portion of a text, esp. of the Bible NC
i'm sitting here at work by myself reminiscing about an old situation that created unneccesary tension.
a few years ago as my mother was in the hospital just diagnosed with ovarian cancer,most family were already at the hospital but my sister who lived in new york at the time had not arrived yet.
my mother who was newly reinstated and knew that my sister and her ex husband now boyfriend wanted to stay the week in her house.
This religion is incredibly hard on families. The meddling is what gets me. Your mother was advised by an elder as to the decision she must make about her own house and her own daughter. Then the aunt got involved. It's just tiresome.
I knew a sister that was nearly 90 but still feisty. Her great niece--maybe great great niece, got pregnant while single. They threw her a baby shower but this sister put her foot down. She couldn't attend the shower because the woman was not married. Now what sense does that make since the gifts were for the baby? It makes perfect sense to a witness though.
It will never end.
NC
or at least that's what my super jw ex-roommate told me when i try to have an adult discussion w her about the importance of a higher education... according to her (a girl that never finished hs because it was not necessary) she has a better education than any college graduate because the jehovah has used the borg literatrash to teach her many many important things.... she says her knowledge of the "truth" is the equivalent of my 4 years of college education..... .
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is there a cure for stupid???!!
If you could convince her to just look into a community college, she wouldn't even need an ACT. Sometimes that route is less threatening.
NC
or at least that's what my super jw ex-roommate told me when i try to have an adult discussion w her about the importance of a higher education... according to her (a girl that never finished hs because it was not necessary) she has a better education than any college graduate because the jehovah has used the borg literatrash to teach her many many important things.... she says her knowledge of the "truth" is the equivalent of my 4 years of college education..... .
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is there a cure for stupid???!!
Jonathon, I suspect you are smarter than me, at least in science. I've always struggled with math and science, but I love them just the same. I just have to work really hard at them. I am working on an English degree. I'm a writer and seriously self taught, but when I got sick and had to go on disability, I thought this would be a good and productive thing to do. It has helped my writing, but not in the way I thought. I'm definitely learning writing techniques for formats I never tried before. I focus mainly on creative writing, but they are helping me develop argumentative and research skills. But the real benefit has simply been education. It's giving me a broader view that includes so many more things to write about! That's the part I didn't expect. I'm considering changing my major to History but heavy on the English since I like writing historical fiction best.
They forced me to write about things I normally wouldn't have. It's really stretched me and made me better in many ways. I actually was awarded an honors scholarship, and so far, haven't had to pay for much. And by the way, llittle guy, I'm 45. You have an amazing future ahead of you. I know you'll love college. It's a lot different than high school, and frankly, they really make you pull your weight. There were moments when I was in tears and felt like a fraud and thought I was going to quit. But then 3 profs told me I should publish and they have been pushing me in that direction ever since. That's another gift college has given me. Recognition and validation. That's something that I never got at the KH. The writing was simply an extra that shouldn't take up too much of my time and energy and should never interfere with service. UGH
Keep me updated. I expect to hear about your first day of school young man! I'm just teasing, it just makes me happy to see another person take the step. My daughter is also in college, but she's much further along. She is close to your age. She took a small break and has returned.
NC
or at least that's what my super jw ex-roommate told me when i try to have an adult discussion w her about the importance of a higher education... according to her (a girl that never finished hs because it was not necessary) she has a better education than any college graduate because the jehovah has used the borg literatrash to teach her many many important things.... she says her knowledge of the "truth" is the equivalent of my 4 years of college education..... .
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is there a cure for stupid???!!
Jonathon! I remember that. Everyone kept complaining that the book was soooo hard and they barely understood it. I remember being kind of surprised, because as flawed as the book was, it was a bit deeper than most of the trash. It also addressed subjects that I never would have read about in the rest of the literature and peaked my curiosity. For most though it was EXACTLY like dental work. LOL It was pain that must be suffered for a greater good.
I love college. I hope you really enjoy it. It's like a brain massage and sometimes gets quite painful, but then when you push through it and get it, it's like floating. I'll be starting my 3rd semester this Fall. I only go part time because of health problems, but I've REALLY missed it this summer.
NC
watchtower 15th jan 1958 page 62 qfr.. why, after receiving from god the express command to multiply and fill the earth, did adam and eve refrain from carrying out this procreation mandate while they were perfect in the garden of eden?.
asking this question concerning adam and eve is like trying to meddle in the private affairs of a christian married couple today, and asking why they have had no children as yet.
jehovah god set no definite time for adam and eve to begin having perfect children to fill the earth.
Asking this question concerning Adam and Eve is like trying to meddle in the private affairs of a Christian married couple today
LOL LOL LOL. Now who would EVER do something like that????
They being perfect, their intercourse together sexually would be for the purpose of reproducing the human kind.
Why do they make such an assumption??? I'm in a paradise garden with a perfect man---I'm not thinking about procreation per se.
GOD how did they EVER snag me in? I am not a stupid person. How did I let this happen? UGH!!
or at least that's what my super jw ex-roommate told me when i try to have an adult discussion w her about the importance of a higher education... according to her (a girl that never finished hs because it was not necessary) she has a better education than any college graduate because the jehovah has used the borg literatrash to teach her many many important things.... she says her knowledge of the "truth" is the equivalent of my 4 years of college education..... .
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is there a cure for stupid???!!
Well said Rocky and BoTR.
Free comfort yourself with the knowledge that she is not college material and would be a waitress regardless. She has the noble excuse of "THE TRUTH" to support her dropping out of high school---but I suspect that wasn't the real reason. Most witnesses I knew did graduate from high school---and honestly most went on to take in some extra education. However, never in Liberal Arts or any other thinking major---they stuck with completely job oriented programs.
NC
http://news.yahoo.com/casey-anthony-acquitted-killing-young-daughter-191600480.html .
Viola, I don't think he's misunderstood. He wasn't going to walk. I just believe in upholding our international agreements. He would be just as dead in 3 months as he is today. They can only help, they can't intervene. I want the world to be safe for US citizens. I'm willing to put my lust for revenge on hold a few months to see that happens.
Just because we believe in due process and following the law doesn't mean we want sick f*cks to walk free. Perry wants to run for president, he's already proven his international skills are nonexistent. That makes me a wee bit nervous, but I'm comforted that he will never win.
BEKS, you got an email
NC
