Welcome Party. I'm so glad you kept your family. That's rare.
NC
dear all,.
i'm new here and this is my first post.
i hope to introduce myself in order to gain more friends online.. to begin, i'm middleage and has just left wt with my family intact (praise god for that).
Welcome Party. I'm so glad you kept your family. That's rare.
NC
sometimes the things they talk about are so unrealistic.
this person had everyone list occupations/industries that would cease to exist in the paradise.
it's interesting how they think that everyone is going to turn into a carpenter, builder, farmer, etc.
LOL. Disney employees, cheerleaders, professional athletes, Jedi Knights, Storm Troopers, dragon hunters, wizards, vampire slayers, exorcists, psychics, Christian Science practitioners, knights in shining armor, clippers, drug mules, conservative right wing radio hosts, fox news, chalkboard manufacturers, bounty hunters, reality show stars, ufo hunters, conspiracy theorists, strippers, sandworm riders, insect wranglers, light sabre manufacturers, junk yard dogs, cookie monsters, and silver bullet manufacturers.
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Pubtruth, you may want to consider just letting it go. The fight is really messing with you mentally. The elders goals will be to simply make you believe their answer. You won't change their understanding in anyway. You have reached an impasse. Neither of you can win the debate. They can't disfellowship you. They won't accept your new found knowledge You can never accept their version of things. That's it. It is what it is.
If you wish to continue the fight, we will support you--of course. But think about it. What is there to gain? Realistically. What are the stakes?
Let us know what you decide. Above all enjoy your life now. Work out your future. It no longer includes the org.
NC
under the wheels of a train.... .
i feel really bad.... i don't want to be in the cult anymore.... .
i was thinking about that whole meeting today.... .
Nebraska! I think you should get help immediately and not think about it. The problem with your mind being in such a depressed state is that you cannot see ANYTHING clearly. It's like looking through beer goggles--only not fun. ALL of your judgement is suspect right now.
TRANSITIONS: Transition is the hardest and most temporary part. You are in transition so things are touch and go. this will be the shortest part of your journey, so hang in there. We all made it.
I spent 20 years on anti-depressants. Since leaving the org. I haven't taken ANY. NONE. and I never took any before I was in. I thought I would never be able to live without them. Now not everyone will have the same experience. Some continue to need medication and they should stick with it. My point is that the org was 100% respnosible for my depression and I never knew that.
Remember you are experiencing a cognitive break-down. You are not seeing clearly at the moment because you brain is overwhelmed. It gets better. It really does. You will again regain your balance. It's hard to believe that now, but it will happen.
I'm not a professional but I've dealt with clinical depression for decades. PM me if you'd like a supportive ear. But I can't replace a professional. Please turn to a professional immediately.
We are proud of the growth you've already shown! You see now and your life is about to begin. It's a big wonderful and sometimes not so wonderful world and soon you will be able to experience that! It's right there.
You will be in my thoughts. Please believe that we have been there and we survived. Please look to us as proof that there is life after the transition. You're gonna be fine---just get through this difficult moment.
NC
dear sir,.
a complaint has been registered against you with the federal authorities in the usa.. the complaints center on slander and character assassination emanating from members posting on your jehovah's witnesses network forum, and online stalking.
all details have now gone to the fbi on federal plaza in new york for their immediate attention.. ([email protected]).
*GASP*
as we all know that las vegas is about gambling, but not everything is about gambling in las vegas, is there a way for the dubs to enjoy their vacation in las vegas without gambling?.
When I was a dub, I planned a trip with 2 other dubs to go to Vegas. Unfortunately the trip had to be cancelled for unrelated reasons. We planned on seeing the shows. I remember we were particularly excited about Blue Man Group. We also had some Grand Canyon plans.
NC
Very cool.
okay, i got back on the 'net partly so i could be back in touch with you folks, b/c i've been so isolated for the past while ,,, so here goes!.
i just got the news monday, and damn!!
my foot is a mess,,, bursitis .. yech, painful, and the doctors have been ignoring me/telling me i'm making it up for 18 mos.
I'll be looking for it TS.
okay, i got back on the 'net partly so i could be back in touch with you folks, b/c i've been so isolated for the past while ,,, so here goes!.
i just got the news monday, and damn!!
my foot is a mess,,, bursitis .. yech, painful, and the doctors have been ignoring me/telling me i'm making it up for 18 mos.
Ugh Talesin---sorry you're hurting. I'm sorry your docs didn't take you seriously. They did that to me too. For a year they told me I was crazy, but it's okay, it just turned out to be a disease that could have killed me. Minor mistake. Then they told me I was crazy for another 8 months---again my mind is fine. It turned out to be a drug interaction with the medicine they gave me to treat the deadly disease--and you got it, it could have killed me. My most recent bout with craziness ended in an emergency procedure, and again, my life was on the line. That was in March. I had been going to them for 8 months with classic symptoms of an illness they already knew I had---but they suggested a psychiatrist.
that's 3 times and I'm not being dramatic. You listen to your body. Don't let them ever tell you it is all in your head. It almost killed me, but the last time I went outside the network and got real help.
NC
so, a lot of you know the situation with my kids.
my older son asks me today why i put in the divorce consent decree why he can't get baptized until he's 18. as we talked, i told him that the wt rules are that once he is 18 he can't talked to me anymore if he is baptized.
he doesn't believe me and since i don't have the wt materials or cd anymore, i need some references from the wt about how children treat df'ed parents and when they should start shunning, etc.. can anyone help me out?
EP I know of children that were put under great pressure not to associate with DF'd parents. Your problem won't be so much policy as attitude. They can't stop you from seeing him, but if he is pressured he may have his own issues. I'm glad you are putting that into the court papers-it gives you some time. Just remember that he will be constantly indoctrinated against associating with you, and the courts won't do a thing about that. If the ex has the right to teach him to be a hater-you have the right to teach him the truth about it. They can't stop you either. Of course you'll have to consider how your actions affect him, but always look for ways to subvert her teaching. If this was a simple Baptist vs Catholic issue it wouldn't be such a big deal. They are looking to destroy your relationship with your son. Fight back. Watch his conscience though---you don't want to put him on this site so that when he goes back to the ex he'll be eaten up with artificial guilt. Find ways that are a bit out of his control so he doesn't have to take the blame.
Then show him what a good childhood is really like. Video games, music, movies. I'm sorry that this religion wants to destroy your family, but they don't always win. Make sure he has some good friends by your house. This will give him some support outside the hateful cult. Friends are extremely important to young people, and this is where the society hits them the hardest.
NC