Posts by NewChapter

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Elders who conduct judicial comittees are creepy & perverted

by jambon1 in

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why can't people in jw congregations see just how utterly creepy this whole arrangement is?.

a girl about 20 years old commits an indescretion of a sexual nature.

three middle aged/old men 'interview' her in a room.

NewChapter

A more obscure note of hypocrisy is that, in the past, Witnesses may have criticized the Catholic confessional for doing this very sort of thing

This part perplexed me even when I was in. They were so critical of the Catholic arrangement. Their's was not all that different. In the Catholic arrangement the person get's a screen and speaks to one person. Sure that person usually knew who was speaking, but the comfort of the screen was there. Then the priest didn't run off to discuss intimate details while the confessor sat worrying about the judgement. Perhaps it made them feel better to talk about it. They both give some type of penance. What difference does it make if it's Hail Mary's or restricted privileges?

I've sat before 3 men in a brightly lit room while they judged me. I have to say that at least they were decent and respectful---but it was the PROCESS that was demeaning. Then we all went home to snicker at the Catholics.

NC

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Meatloaf the musician, a JW no no?

by highdose in

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am i right in thinking that the music of meatloaf is off limits to jw's?

i seem to remember some tut tutting and strong concil about bat out of hell?.

NewChapter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37GrbCUvZEM

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Jesus was just a man?

by Joey Jo-Jo in

according to this video, jesus was just a man, but were can i find these books that speak of this.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m23vv6moyf0&feature=related.

NewChapter

Can you be 100% of 2 things? I had a dog once, it was 50% miniature collie and 50% peckanees (sp?). That made her 100% dog which is god reversed. But I digress. I suppose it has to be 100% each, otherwise he would only be half god. But he was both fully god and fully human. And so . . . one must break the mathmatical laws that the god created in order to create HIM. God I get dizzy with these conversations. (or should I say HUMAN, I get dizzy with these conversations.) Whoa, I just made myself dizzier.

NC

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Meatloaf the musician, a JW no no?

by highdose in

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friends

am i right in thinking that the music of meatloaf is off limits to jw's?

i seem to remember some tut tutting and strong concil about bat out of hell?.

NewChapter

Paradise by the Dashboard Lights! That song was a blast to belt out at the top of our lungs. The lyrics were easy to remember and the final verse was so funny.

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New to this site. Scared, Lonely and in a lot of pain due to shunning by my family.

by wonder*woman in

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this is my very first post to this forum.

i am begging for some much needed encouragment and support by those who are kind hearted and know exactly the pain shunning causes.

i am a 30 year old former jehovah's witness and a mother of two beautiful girls.

NewChapter

Welcome Wonder Woman! So glad you have a place you can reach out to for support.

I have never been officially shunned--yet--but unofficially I felt its sting. At first it bothered me so much. As time went on, I realized that they no longer shunned me, I shunned THEM. Give yourself time. None of us can say how long you will grieve or how bumpy that road will be. But we CAN tell you it gets better. We made it through and so will you. Just know that the pain eases and a beautiful new life opens up. Try to make some friends. Join a club, voluteer, go back to school. There are as many ways to make friends as people on this board. But make friends. We weren't meant to be isolated from each other---it's cruel. So WT policy is nothing but cruel. It won't get the best of you though, because now EVERYONE is a potential friend. Choose wisely.

NC

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Do they read the paragraph before or after asking the questions?

by james_woods in

i used to be the wt study conductor back in the 1970s.

the way i remember it, we asked the question first, got several comments, and then read the paragraph.

if we were running long on the hour time, i would sometimes just read the last few paragraphs.. something i read here made me think that this had been reveresed - i.e.

NewChapter

In my hall, we had both kinds of answers. Some repeated the paragraph, some gave personal experience or referred to other literature, 2-year-olds answered "jebooan" and 3-year-olds answered "Jehovah". We didn't have a picture window. We didnt' have ANY windows. I had to close my eyes and imagine.

NC

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Do they read the paragraph before or after asking the questions?

by james_woods in

i used to be the wt study conductor back in the 1970s.

the way i remember it, we asked the question first, got several comments, and then read the paragraph.

if we were running long on the hour time, i would sometimes just read the last few paragraphs.. something i read here made me think that this had been reveresed - i.e.

NewChapter

And a paragraph deeply studied today may change tomorrow.

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Do they read the paragraph before or after asking the questions?

by james_woods in

i used to be the wt study conductor back in the 1970s.

the way i remember it, we asked the question first, got several comments, and then read the paragraph.

if we were running long on the hour time, i would sometimes just read the last few paragraphs.. something i read here made me think that this had been reveresed - i.e.

NewChapter

We read the paragraph first and answered the questions second. Sometime the question was read before the paragraph, but not answered. It was only meant to give a CLUE as to what would be asked later.

As I recall it, the BEST dubs read the article as soon as it came in the mail (later, picked up at the hall)

Then the week before they read each paragraph, looked at the question, and read the paragraph again in order to underline the answer.

Then on the day of the meeting, it was read outloud again and the question was asked.

Then 3 or 4 people would reread the paragraph in the course of their answers.

Then review questions were asked, and 3 or 4 paragraphs were reread in THOSE answers.

By now each paragraph had been read about 6 times---give or take. I'm rounding.

And the super bestest dubs of all would sometimes say they had to read the article THREE times because it was so deep. So let's add another 3, bringing us to 9.

Sometimes, after studying it on their own, some would then study it with friends or family. Read, answer. Add two. Up to 11 times.

THEN, the next year, the paragraphs are rehashed in the Daily Text. Read once, look at question, Read again. Add two. 13 times.

THEN when someone started struggling, Elders often assigned old articles to read. And another read. 14 times.

Fourteen times. That's how many times a paragraph is read. That's my scientific conclusion.

NC

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Bridesmaids

by InquiryMan in

the comedy blockbuster "bridesmaids" is rated r in the us.

in scandinavia it is allowed for everyone to see, although recommended to youths/adults... shows the difference in attitude towards swearing/sexuality.

whereas some violent films have lesser rating in the us than europe.

NewChapter

We talked about that in our English class. (violence vs sex ratings in the US compared to other countries) It seems upside down.

NC

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How well do you sleep?

by Lozhasleft in

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friends

for years i've been pretty good at getting a good night's sleep.

a couple of pages of my book and i'm away til morning, apart from the odd bladder brigade journey.

however, suddenly, after our house move, i am having just an awful time of it.

NewChapter

BP nothing I say will convince you that you missed my meaning and intention. You want to fight with me and that's all.

NONI, I WANT to go to sleep. How do you think the jack will mix with the pain meds? LOL