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  ..Which has Caused You the Most Grief in Your Life..The Outside World or Watchtower World?..

  by OUTLAW in

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  according to the wbt$... the outside world is supposed to be a horrible place... .

  the outside world hasn't caused me nearly as much grief,as watchtower world... outside world (5% grief).....watchtower world..(95% grief)... .

  which has caused you the most grief in your life... the outside world or watchtower world?...

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  Let's see . . .

  I was forced to choose from a dating pool of grimy, low-income-earning, leftovers. After a certain age, that pool grows smaller and the only asset they have is HEADSHIP status which made them feel like their pathetic existence was important. They were the best mates in the world you know. My hall was located in an area with a concentration of social services. So . . . I have witnessed much bizarre behavior and been taken advantage of as these people always needed extra help. I'm a helpful person. But the constant pressure was exhausting.

  Now I choose my friends and don't worry about getting shunned for hurting their little feelings. My dating pool has grown quite large and I don't have to date "with a view to marriage". HUGE relief. Dating includes conversation on a variety of topics including ideas and books and future dreams. "Sure I can go to that rated R movie with you! And we can do so casually. No rumor mill to gear up and speculate on our imminent marriage. "

  Panic attacks nearly nonexistant now. Depression completely manageable. Tuesday and Thursday nights---totally relaxing. Freezing cold Saturday mornings--nice and toasty as I roll over to doze a little longer.

  SO MUCH BETTER NOW!

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  Update: I got the shun at my dad's funeral- the best outcome really!!

  by Coffee House Girl in

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  hello all jwn .

  so glad to have that over with- it was surreal to walk in the kh after two years...it is just a building to me now (not "jehovah's house").

  i must say that now i'm on the outside...what a boring sad building- the people were not joyful and friendly (just older and fatter than i remember)- i got the nervous stares and shaky "hi" when i looked at all of them and said hello.. my mom was sitting all by herself in the front row of the hall...i went and sat by her side.

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  I'm sorry you had to sit through this. I'm sorry that even during a time of extreme grief these tiny minded people only knew how to follow rules. What kind of danger did it pose for them to simply acknowledge you and your loss?

  But you are free now and they aren't. You can move on to sincere and healing grieving. I'm sorry for your loss. I'm sure the memorial just unveiled another layer of grief and reality for you. Those things tend to bring home how final the situation is, and it hurts. My mother died 20 years ago and I still miss her. Give yourself time and rest.

  Take good care of yourself.

  NC
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  Telling a Depressed Person It's Demons!

  by NewChapter in

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  when a person is depressed, their cognitive abilities are depleted.

  they are processing reality through a very negative filter and need help getting balanced.

  they often experience fear, guilt, hopelessness and anxiety.

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  Talesin, that's another very sad story. And considering your profession, you must hear them everyday.

  It is that person's choice to suicide. It's no one else's fault for unintentionally saying the wrong thing

  I agree---if it is said in ignorance. That's why we must take a strong stand and EDUCATE. Even if you believe that demons cause depression, and I won't be able to convince you otherwise, there are proper times for all discussion. Isn't that in proverbs?

  NC
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  Breaking News: Explosion in Oslo

  by leavingwt in

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  just heard about this via twitter.. .

  http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/innenriks/eksplosjon-i-oslo-sentrum-3544362.html.

  more photos: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article4180673.ece.

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  Is that your comment or Spudboys, or Michaels?
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  Some of you already know.......

  by Iamallcool in

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  some of you already know that i am staying with my jw relatives right now til august 8. they are at the meeting right now.

  i am looking for decorative smoking detector covers.

  i have already googled it.

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  Clear your history! LOL
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  Breaking News: Explosion in Oslo

  by leavingwt in

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  just heard about this via twitter.. .

  http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/innenriks/eksplosjon-i-oslo-sentrum-3544362.html.

  more photos: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article4180673.ece.

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  BEKS! You have a pm.
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  Review and Comments on the New Elders Book

  by MrDarkKnight in

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  i recently completed an exhaustive review of an unofficial copy of the new elders manual.

  my father, who is currently serving as an elder told me a friend of his in the service department told him it was on the internet so i eagerly looked for it and found it.

  yes, i know it was a violation of copyright, but while at bethel i made copies of many technical manuals which is also a copy of copyright so the wts hypocrisy does not concern me.. i was appointed as an elder the year the pay attention book (manual replaced by this one) was released so i have very good working knowledge of the old book and could compare the two books.

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  LOL that pornography break down was inevitable. It wasn't a disfellowshipping offense for quite a while unless it was shared with others. This was like a green light and they knew it. We know how they respond to green lights---they heap on as many regulations as possible. They don't do well with clear black and white issues--they MUST muddy the waters and keep everyone guessing. They aren't going to list all these levels of pornography in a WT--which means the r&f will never really know where they stand unless they confess to the elders, who can then take it all apart and decide FOR them. Genius. Before this a dub could reason that they weren't obligated to go to the elders, now they don't know what the hell to think. Thinking is strongly discouraged.

  NC
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  Why Some Cannot "See" that the Bible is NOT the Word of God

  by AGuest in

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  to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace.

  some of you may have recently observed some discussions regarding what... or rather, who... the word of god is, truly.

  in those and other threads, some participants weren't able to grasp the difference between discussion vs. contention... and defending their own faith... and love of god and christ... vs. ramming their [mis]assumptions as to the "vengeance of god"... down others' throats.

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  And why is it that those that ARE tuned in don't experience similiar revelation? On the contrary those personal revelations often contradict each other. If I understand these personal revelations to simply be an individual's interpretation of ideas, then that makes sense. But if I think these contradicting revelations come from the same perfect god, than we have a problem.

  Why is one person's personal revelation more valid than the next? On what do you base that decision? Is it simply what you feel is right?

  Let's say that your revelation says that all will be reconciled with god. Your neighbor's revelation says that sinners will burn forever. All this from the same omniscient god? No this smacks of human, not divine revelation. And this god seems very human indeed.

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  A concerned JW wrote "mistakes will happen."

  by InterestedOne in

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  in the thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/213523/1/feeling-a-bit-alienated, concerned jw wrote:.

  mistakes will happen.

  concerned jw, if mistakes will happen, i was wondering what mistakes you feel the jw organization is currently making?

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  Fair enough. Mistakes happen. Can Concerned link us to an apology? Oh the WT just gloats when the Catholic Church offers apologies! It would seem that they view the apologies with contempt because of the actions that required such apologies. It turns out they just view the apologies with contempt---period.

  Perhaps Concerned has never suffered from one of these "mistakes" . Perhaps their life was never shattered over a matter that ended up being changed anyway. Perhaps Concerned lacks compassion and the ability to apoligize too. Perhaps that is just the cult personality. If we could ever break through that personality, there may be loving person under there. A person that apologizes for mistakes and grieves when they hurt someone. Until then, they will simply throw around pat cliches like "mistakes happen" in the face of much pain and suffereing.

  Wake up concerned before one of these "mistakes" destroys your life.

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  Review and Comments on the New Elders Book

  by MrDarkKnight in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i recently completed an exhaustive review of an unofficial copy of the new elders manual.

  my father, who is currently serving as an elder told me a friend of his in the service department told him it was on the internet so i eagerly looked for it and found it.

  yes, i know it was a violation of copyright, but while at bethel i made copies of many technical manuals which is also a copy of copyright so the wts hypocrisy does not concern me.. i was appointed as an elder the year the pay attention book (manual replaced by this one) was released so i have very good working knowledge of the old book and could compare the two books.

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  ETA: Thanks for the review. I also found the different rules for elders and the rest of the flock quite disturbing when it comes to the confession of past sins

  Can someone elaborate on this? I haven't read anything about this particular aspect yet. Thanks!

  NC