Posts by stillstuckcruz

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When was the first time...

by OneDayillBeFree in

you ever went on jwn?

do you remember?

what made you do it?

I came in here when i was having doubts about the religion. I am a very reasonable person and for so long I felt like I only had one side of the entire story. Being raised in, I never had any opportunity so see anything else, being prevented from seeing any other angle and reading any other material not from the JW's themselves. One day when my family all left the house I googled Jehovahs Witnesses and and found this site along the way.

I lurked for a long time, finding so many disturbing things. What disturbed be the most in the beginning was the false way they portray apostates. They make it out to seem like everything they say is all lies and if they say or show you anything, its all false and has been printed to their own liking. That apostates are not interested in telling the truth but are seeking to destroy everyones faith, etc,etc,etc,etc. OBVIOUSLY not the case. If not for the internet, I wonder where I would be today.....

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More apostate hating from the Watchtower

by Igot2bme in

i ran across this post on fb-.

the november 15, 2011 study version of the watchtower, has this to say in an article praising jehu's actions against the family of ahab.

"the prophet elisha sent one of the sons of the prophets to anoint jehu as king and to instruct him to kill every male of the apostate house of ahab.2 ki.

stillstuckcruz

We HAVE to throw this to media along with the "mental diseased" articles. People must really think JW's are insane. And it's funny(more like sad) how those inside find nothing wrong with this. Well I guess from experience and research, I've learned that people in the Borg aren't always what they seem. If they have a problem with either of these articles, too bad. Tough it up! It's from Jehovah!

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A bit more Activity on the Mentally Diseased Front

by cantleave in

this from someone not on this board:.

hi guys,.

as i said yesterday, i am already in touch with the chief inspector of the diversity unit for thames valley police and i forwarded him the articles from the independent and the telegraph.

stillstuckcruz

I LOVE THIS! I'm really just grinning from ear to ear here. It's really about time people start to learn about Jw's before they begin studies and what not. This media coverage may not affect those already in the organization but it sure can affect those potential converts. We have already seen many statistics of the massive number of individuals leaving and the growth rate slowly falling. If less come in, and more are leaving, who knows what will happen.

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JW spokesman: We refuse blood, but it's a personal choice

by MrMonroe in

dublin news story contains a blatant lie from the mouth of a jw spokesman:.

http://www.thejournal.ie/need-for-discussions-between-hospitals-and-jehovahs-witness-patients-234833-sep2011/.

a court order granted today to allow the coombe hospital give a baby a blood transfusion against the wishes of her parents underscores the need for more discussions to take place between hospital staff and patients, says a dublin branch of jehovahs witnesses.. harry homan, from the south dublin hospital liaison committee said that the issue highlighted the relationship between hospital staff and jehovahs witness patients.. he said, however, that there is already healthy discussions happening across the country.. the parents in this case are very happy with the hospital and the care being give to their baby, homan told thejournal.ie.. there is an excellent relationship between the parents and staff and the child is receiving the best of care.. he added that a blood transfusion will only be given to the premature baby as a last resort.. at the moment, she is doing well, said homan.. rte reports that the transfusion will be given to the baby if her condition deteriorates and it is necessary to save her life.. hospitals are acutely aware of the dangers associated with blood transfusions, claimed homan, adding that it is in everyones best interests to seek alternatives.. he said the position of jehovahs witnesses is perfectly clear on the matter of blood transfusions.. we do refuse transfusions, he said.

stillstuckcruz

I have a question. So if I am dying and I take the blood transfusion, and I point out that this article says its a personal choice, what will their response be? They would likely say something to the effect of, "the media misinterpreted our words" or something

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Dub snubbed by my two best JW friends! :(

by TimothyT in

hahahahahahahahahaha!!!.

apart from it being frightfuly rude and ignorant, its actualy very funny and rather pathetic.

i really pity these poor people who's lives are ruled by fear.. across the road from where i was working today lives one of my 'very good jw friends' who no longer has anything to do with me.

stillstuckcruz

Good job Timothy! It funny how they feel pity for you as if YOU are the one who is miserable without them and the organization. When, in reality, it is vice versa. I can see this first hand in my own hall. "Bad" association runs rampant in our hall(and admittedly there are a few), and then you have the couple of "good" ones who are really great and nice people, but have no freinds or dont hang out with anyone because all the other young people are "bad". So they are forced to "widen out" and associate only with the older ones. They will get old VERRRY quickly. Have a happy life Timmy! I envy you :-P

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Local Needs: Low Hours

by breakfast of champions in

the local needs was about low fs time in the cong.

about 1/3 of publishers are averaging 4 hours per month.

that is unprecedented in our cong, a usually 'zealous' congregation.. my take is this: if you don't believe it yourself, why are you going to waste valuable time telling others?

stillstuckcruz

@sir82: very true. Then you have those who do the "pioneer shuffle" in service, barely walking and counting all of that as witnessing time. Those time reports must be so off.

I think my father(elder who handles all the time for the congregation) must make up hours for me. I have turned in time all of about 3 times this year. I dont understand how I'm not considered inactive yet. I usually only make 1-3 hours a month.

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Effective means of "apostasizing" at conventions and assemblies?

by stillstuckcruz in

i notice most apostates will picket signs or try to place their own literature with the witnesses.

i cant see how the latter is effective since jw's are so heavily bombarded with warnings about apostate literature.

i was thinking that an effective strategy might be printing out lots of copies of older and current magazines, highlighting specific phrases and words, and stapling them together to show the obvious inconsistency of the wt.

stillstuckcruz

Well, a photocopy is what it would take to convince anyone, because they all know that apostates change the wording in the stuff posted online.

^lol. Yea. From a JW mind this would be the near automatic resonse: O they MUST have changed the wording, no way we would EVER say these things.

But I still believe its a better alternative than apostates own literature. Especially since, if they are at ALL interested, they can look it up themselves.

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Which songs/Albums were considered "Demonic" in your Congregation...did you toss some?

by Witness 007 in

"hotel california" was considered a major demonic song.

ac/dc stood for anti-christ devils children....{not according to the band} kiss stood for knight s in satans service {not according to the band} anyone else have to toss albums?.

stillstuckcruz

KISS was the big one for a long time.

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Local Needs: Low Hours

by breakfast of champions in

the local needs was about low fs time in the cong.

about 1/3 of publishers are averaging 4 hours per month.

that is unprecedented in our cong, a usually 'zealous' congregation.. my take is this: if you don't believe it yourself, why are you going to waste valuable time telling others?

stillstuckcruz

I absolutely believe this. After finally deciding to do reasearch on JW's, I came to find out just how many are still counted among the 7 million JW's. But just how many of these counted 7 million are totally into it is a total mystery. So many are faking their way through until they can make a break for it. Or can't leave on account of their families. The "this system's pressure" excuse gets old. It really make me wonder who is sitting next to me at the Kh and not actually wanting to be there...

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Posted a question about "Mentally Diseased" apostates on Answerbag...look at these JWs' replies.

by Chemical Emotions in

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/2583284.

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stillstuckcruz

Nightcrawler: "The Greek word translated here as “mentally diseased” is “noseo” which means being sick with any ailment of the mind, and in this application specifically spiritual sickness.

The truth of the matter is every human is mentally diseased regardless of what we may personally choose to believe, some more then others, in fact not recognising this shows just how far we may have already been affected by this epidemic."

---And so here he has basically implied that he is an apostate. Apostates are branded "mentally diseased". If everyone is mentally diseased, he must be an apostate......