OH CRIPES. Simon You'd better delete LDH1, LOL!
Lisa
are you able to sleep at night?
knowing pat garza has gone public saying how you molested her and others when a district overseer in los angeles?
seeing that still another lawsuit was filed the first day of the 2003 new year against the watchtower society you are a governing body member of?
OH CRIPES. Simon You'd better delete LDH1, LOL!
Lisa
did anyone see oj simpson on espn last night?.
dan patrick interveiwed that scumbag.dan asked him... .
ya, so do you still spend money trying to find nicoles killer?.
Foot says....
there is no reasonable explanation that suggests that OJ did not do it. Therefore there is no reasonable doubt.
OH MY FREAKING GOD.
Please tell me you did not just lecture us on the finer points of the law with this lame ass statement.
You may be a very intelligent person otherwise, but honey, you must have missed the part of our Law Code that DECLARES A MAN INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
NO ONE on OJ's defense team had to explain ANYTHING about OJ or his actions. He went into that courtroom presumed an innocent man. It is the responsibility of the prosecutor (District Attorney's Office) to prove that he is guilty. THEY FAILED TO DO THAT. Therefore, OJ walked. Your gripe should be with the Prosecution team and the inept Darden and Clark.
May God grant that you are NEVER summoned to jury duty, especially in a capital case.
Lisa
Not under Napoleonic Law Class
Disgusted Class
please post your experiences here for any lurkers to read.
when i was a teenager, there was a young lady early 20's who had moved into our cong.
she had a newborn son and had just married her worldly boyfriend, the father of the baby.
bttt for lurkers, newbies and Jan and Fred. (They know why.)
king: what do you make of all these child cases going around america, missing children, grabbed children, killed children?
sheindlin: i think you have to find the perpetrators and -- we talked about this the last time i was here.
you put them all on a plane.
(((((((((((Chester))))))))))
I was going to make a post about this very same thing!
Did you hear the way she slammed the Catholic Church's confession policy? Apparently (I didn't know this) one priest can confess to another priest and be absolved. EVEN a criminal act such as pedophilia.
That's just as goddamned nutty as the JW way.
Take care,
Lisa
and the women from the girls.. with the nfl games about to start, who here loves (not likes but loves) football?
ok, not everyone can be a fan of my deloved bears, so what other team do you have to settle cheering for?
oh, and in case you didn't know it already, bret farve is the anti-christ.
LOL Biggsy, he is EWWWWWW.... and don't think I haven't seen him. I am trying to find a commentary show worthy of my time since they took HOWIE off the air. I've seen 'em all.
I did forget your name though. I'd watch you count peas.
Lisa
and the women from the girls.. with the nfl games about to start, who here loves (not likes but loves) football?
ok, not everyone can be a fan of my deloved bears, so what other team do you have to settle cheering for?
oh, and in case you didn't know it already, bret farve is the anti-christ.
Well, I always say: If you can't be an athlete, be an athletic supporter.
Lisa
and the women from the girls.. with the nfl games about to start, who here loves (not likes but loves) football?
ok, not everyone can be a fan of my deloved bears, so what other team do you have to settle cheering for?
oh, and in case you didn't know it already, bret farve is the anti-christ.
Let me put it this way....If I could get ahold of the Ref that made that bogus-@$$ call on the Raiders game last year, he'd be done making babies.
ANYBODY could have seen that it was not a forward pass it was a fumble.
I guess I'll have to let it go....on to a new season.
I LIVE FOR FOOTBALL. I love the Raiders and the Rams. Vinnie Testaverde sucks. Is he 'done' yet?
And, by the way, I'm going to bomb the new NFL commentary team. Who does NBC think they are, not offering that cutie pie Howie Long a contract????
IMHO the perfect commentary team (for women) would be:
Howie Long
Oded Ferrer
Billy Zane
Howie Long
Lawrence Fishburne
Denzel Washington
Oscar de la Hoya
Howie Long
Chow Yun Fat
Jet Li
Howie Long
VIEWERSHIP would go THROUGH the roof.
Not that sappy ass Chris Collinsworth. What woman wants to look at him for HOURS?
Lisa
Soapbox Class
(i shouldn't post this when i'm half asleep) .
comments you will not hear at this weekend's wt study (but i will be thinking them) .
week of september 2-8, 2002
Blondie,
LOVED the post. Minimus is right. You should be a comedy writer.
Lisa
Thanks-but-no-thanks to the "Privilege" Class
"the elders feel that she is basically biting the helping hand"
the quote above is from a recent news article regarding child rape and jehovah's witnesses.
i find it a stunning confirmation of exactly how abuse survivors are treated within the jehovahs witnesses community.
Hi Waiting....
I agree with you almost 100%.
This issue, though, is the one that mademe realize that the JWs are a cult and have brainwashed their victims. WHY? Because honest, goodhearted men who would rather die than harm a fly have somehow been snookered into believing that their manner of "investigating sins" is Jehovah's manner.
And, as I have stated before, the parents of the children themselves also have some culpability here--NOT that they (in all cases) knew the molestation was taking place. But those that did "committed the same crime" as my father/other elders. Instead of going to the police, they chose to let the elders handle it.
I can tell you now, they haven't made an elder yet that could handle me if my children were molested.
THE PATTERN WAS DESIGNED BY THE GOVERNING BODY. THEY are the bloodguilty ones here.
"God's ways are higher than man's ways" and when you've been hearing for YEARS sometimes DECADES that you are God's right hand man.....well, you lose perspective. Period.
I know many asshole elders, and a few elders that I would probably give my life for. They honestly think they are doing what's right.
Your position postulates that even Bill Bowen himself was an abuser...and it just isn't true. Unwittingly, unknowingly these men have participated in crimes against children. But I personally would not go the extra step to call them an abuser. Yes, the judicial committees they sat on have done irreparable damage to who knows how many adults and children.
Calling *ALL* of those men abusers outright, imho, is doing a disservice. Remember that at one time, we too were "abusers"--going from door to door spreading our brainwashing message of death to the unsuspecting general public.
Without giving any confidential details over the DB, I'd say we should talk via phone. I'll send you my number via email. Bill Bowen woke up. The rest haven't woken up yet to the reality of the situation.
Lisa
ps check your email
well, since i've been rather "inactive" and haven't started any new threads in a coupla months at least, i want to get your thoughts on this subject.. i've been reading a fair deal (since i'm a fast reader, i've always been able to keep up with most of the posts.
) but lately (past month) i really haven't been feeling drawn to jw.com.
i have nothing but admiration for simon, ang, bill and shiela but i do have some questions worth raising.
LOL @ Cassi...I said in the beginning of the thread I wasn't getting much sleep.
Took you three hours to catch it,
Makes me really look at her as an honest person for admitting to it. You wont find many here that will admit to having made a screw up like that.
Now this, I can agree with.
I do feel however the subject of why Fred Hall was deactivated has been beaten like a dead horse. This must be the tenth thread started about his demise.
I only saw a couple, but like I said....they didn't really state my position well.
((((((Cass))))))
Lisa