Posts by DarioKehl

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I Want Proof Jesus Even Existed

by Farkel in

don't bother me with the josephus addendum.

i've already seen that debunked.. i am quite aware of the fact that the only evidence of jesus comes from his own followers who didn't even bother to write down his life for decades after jesus "died.

" don't know about you, but if i saw all that shit, i would have gone home and written three books about it that same day!.

DarioKehl

There is none. Reseach the "Q" source. It's amazing! The synoptic gospels are a JOKE. Scholars theorize that Mark was written first while Luke and Matthew were written much later and are obvious works of plagiarism. "Q" may have been a common list of Jesus quotes. The areas where Mark, Matthew and Luke deviate from each other give evidence that each author cherry picked quotes from another unknown source called "Q."

Also, google "New Testament Plagiarism from Hebrew Scriptures" and prepare to be blown away. Of course, as JWs and ex-JWs, we may be familiar with most of these similarities because it was pounded into our heads that any similarity is "PROOF of the Bible's accurate prophecies!" Bah Humbug! The New Testament is nothing more than a pastiche of old Jewish writings and tweaked enough to start a new religion DECADES after Christ was allegedly living. Moses and Jesus have so many similarities it's astonishing: (A ruling king orders the execution of all babies in the land at news of their arrival. Moses and Jesus both impressed religious leaders with their intelligence as children, both fasted alone for 40 days, both made many identical quotes--some verbatim--about freeing "my people.") Isaac and Jesus do as well (They were both products of miraculous births. Their dad's both offered them up for sacrifice. Isaac had to gather the wood for the altar, Jesus had to carry his "toture stake," Abraham's altar was built on the same mountain later identified as the Mt. of Olives). King David and Jesus: (David's sidekick drew a sword against Absalom's sidekick and David told him to put it away just like Jesus said to Peter when he drew his sword---BOTH ACCOUNTS occured in the Garden of Gethsemane!) Sure, you can say "Hey! Proof of prophecy!" Or, you can apply Occam's Razor and ask what's more likely? And why would the almighty creator of the universe confine himself within the perameters of a literary device like forshadowing? "Oh, well, you see, this account pictures that... you know... just because. Why? Because! Jehovah made it that way..."

BULLCRAP. Only FICTIONAL NOVELS do that!

Another glaring example even appears in the NWT. At Mark 13:14, the author--obviously copying from another pamphlet--mistakenly includes instructions that are so out of place it will blow your mind. Surely, Jesus wouldn't have said, "let the reader use discernment" as a parenthetical aside during his speech about the last days LOL! That's like an actor saying "exit stage right" or "turn page" in the middle of a play! Ridiculous.

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Please Help! Wife want PROOF of Watchtower Deception

by Indian Larry in

please post any examples of clear cut watchtower deception.

my wife does not believe that the watchtower would purposely decieve her.

i need clearcut examples of deception of by the wtbts.

DarioKehl

Indian Larry...

Here is a TERRIFIC YouTube channel that discusses very modern examples of WT ploys. Many JWs immediately dismiss any discussion about "old doctrine." I think you will have better success showing outrageous ploys in current literature. This guy records actual footage and enlarged scans of new books and mags and refutes them with other WT publications and exposes their tendency to quote sources dishonestly. I hope this helps...

https://www.youtube.com/user/WakeUpWitness/videos?view=0

The link probably won't be clickable, but just go to YouTube and search for the channel name: WakeUpWitness

Good luck.

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Help me wake up my friends please!

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

i know that this may be impossible and will surely get me a judicial comittee but i'm tired of keeping mum about how i feel.

so, i'm going to e-mail my two friends (two women under 35 who both got baptised within the last five years and one married a brother this year.they're both pioneers) and tell them what's bothering me and ttatt.. i'm going to do it tomorrow night.

i have some points already but i may have left out some.

DarioKehl

my 2 cents: talk to them each separately in person so there aren't "two eyewitnesses" to your "crime." avoid email or any electronic communication that can be printed or forwarded. unless you're ready to take a sail on the Big Boat (the disfella ship).

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Confused in choosing a career. What would be a better choice?

by will-be-apostate in

jw
friends

i had started a topic like this a few months ago but i thought it might be usefull to ask you again.

i really need advise from persons who live in the following countries: usa, canada, uk.

australia.

DarioKehl

Congrats on your decision to pursue a college education. I don't mean to be a pessimist, but I'm going to be very honest with you. Right now, in the US, the economy is horrendous. I have a college degree and it's been difficult finding a job. Companies seem to be apprehensive about hiring new employees due to the yet-unknown costs of Obama's health care law (that's my theory anyway). However, the economy will recover. While you're in school, it won't matter. Perhaps by the time you complete your degree, you will graduate in a strong economic environment. The medical profession is very "iffy" right now. Many doctors and med students fear that they will not make the same amount of money once Obamacare takes effect. Obviously, you seem intelligent and drawn to the sciences. Have you considered a career in research?

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Favorite JW Urban Legends

by Christ Alone in

what are your favorite urban legends that you heard as a jw?.

here's mine:.

a brother, through his work, was asked to give a speech to the united nations.

DarioKehl

I've got some doozies!

The old worldy woman who named her black lab "Jehovah" and it attacked and killed her.

The walking smurf.

The story of the new bethelite who, on his first day, ran into Nathan Knorr in the elevator. He said, "How ya doin', Nate?" and was sent home for being disrespectful (there are many awful stories about this man and elevators...ever noticed?).

Elderly women JWs knocking on a door. A doberman runs around the corner of the house in attack mode and mysteriously drops to the ground until they leave the property.

Any JW prayers being answered by bags of groceries on the front porch at "just the right time."

Ouija boards flying across the room or cutting forearm flesh of worldy people who recently began studying.

Demonic trinkets from garage sales refusing to burn.

Aerosmith, Led Zeppelin, KISS and the TV show Mr. Ed talking about Satan when played backwards.

Smurf merchandise being thrown out from every JW home in 1983-1984 (but every JW family I knew secretly kept their Thriller albums even after MJ was DFed and within a few years, he was acceptable music at JW wedding receptions).

JW fad/crazes: 1970's anti-sugar craze. 1980's aluminum/alzheimers craze. 1990's MLM crazes (mulit-vitamins, NONI juice, long distance phone cards and herbal lotions). 2000's post-9/11 "re-zealification," 2010's emerging closted apostamovements ;)

The cheating, unfaithful JW brother who was having an affair. He and his mistress went to a large sporting event (World Series was the version I heard) and the ball was batted into the grandstands. Elders in his hometown saw him on the TV broadcast making out in the row in front of the guy who caught the ball... hmmmm... has anyone ever seen Ferris Bueller's Day Off????

There were also many doozies published in some of the yearbooks. I forget the year, but there were countless experiences of prayer causing Jedi-like mind tricks on the SS and many JWs avoided many disaters miraculously (SS guard looked inside an oven full of WT mags and "didn't see" them?). Does anyone remember that yearbook? Which year was it?

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A New Language

by mamochan13 in

jw
friends

i remember years ago cos telling the congregation how important it was to know the "new language" because we would be identified by it and it could save us when the end came.

they gave examples like "rendezvous for service" which was popular at the time.

lots of others.

DarioKehl

TTATT is another good one.

I also enjoy some of the witty vernacular like "watchtarded, Asleep!, Beth-Hell, Jayhoover, elderette, piosneer and Kingdumb Hell." Lol!

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Believing in God - Challenge

by jgnat in

i invite king solomon and anyone else that is interested, to discuss if believing in god may be helpful.

i am not restricting the discussion to the biblical god.

i'm ready to look if this belief may be helpful both from a societal and from an individual point of view.

DarioKehl

No. It's entirley detrimental and a waste of time, energy, emotion and resources.

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5 Reasons Why the DEAF Masturbation Video is different than anything before...

by BluePill2 in

jw
friends

as some of you have noticed the asl video warning against masturbation (another guilt trip) is creating waves.

this is not small fry.

1. it is humorous - most topics (like other policies) are serious/depressing (blood, shunning, pedos).

DarioKehl

I saw it on Jeff Ross's show tonight as well. Almost spit my beer all over the room. For people outside the JW/WBTS/exJW world to pick up on it means that the trends on YouTube are getting notice from people on the "outside." Keep postin', people!

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At This Point In Your Life Would You Care If You Were Disfellowshipped or Disassociated?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i'm curious..

DarioKehl

Yes. It would really hurt my friends and family. I want out, but can't do that to them. It sucks.

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A question for Athiests

by EndofMysteries in

i really do not understand how any can be athiests from thinking real hard about it.

how can you think everything on this earth just happened?.

from my understanding, to be athiest, this is pretty much how it goes.

DarioKehl

Wow...

Night Owl, you're so sadly misinformed. First of all, you flavor everything with loaded and insulting language. No one is "demanding" anything. The burden of proof is upon the person making the claim. You claim God exists. I have a right to ask for proof and you have the moral responsibility to provide it to your claim. Otherwise, I do not have to believe it. Scientific proof comes from physical, observable evidence. Data is gathered by observation and testing, followed by a detailed analysis. This "proof" is then published publicly and under the constant scrutiny of peer review. Science is adaptable and changing. When solutions come along that disprove or qualifiy previously held theories, the world of academia is updated based on new evidence.

Your god only requires faith. He has no way of being measured or observed because, conveniently, he's always juuuuuusst out of reach. When the Greeks didn't know what thunder was, they attributed it to gods. Science eventually explained thunder. Anytime there's an unknown gap, the theists cram god into it. Well, now that the scientific method has had centuries of success, god's gaps are further apart than ever before and ridiculously small. Now, all you have to do is say "he exists outside of space and time and we can't measure his energy." Really... Well, Science will eventually debunk that claim as well. It will. It has gone that way since humans opened their minds to critical thinking and escaped the bondage of religion. NEVER--EVER EVER EVER--has something with a scientific explanation been disproven by something supernatural. It has always gone the other direction.

Now, you claim that the only proof we have of our "silly" (nice...) theories about life's beginning are a "bunch of flawed experiments in a lab" and you want "real world proof." LMFAO ARE YOU SERIOUS?????????? What experiments do you know of that are flawed? Please, if you know of one, you'd better publish a paper debunking the experiment because let me tell you, of all the thousands of scientists in the world who will bite at any opportunity to debunk a collegue, YOU are the only one who knows about "flaws" in a "bunch" of experiments?!?!?!?! Alert Sweden too, buddy, because if you blow the whistle on this and disprove evolution, dude, you will recieve the Nobel Prize and become more famous than Stephen Hawking. Seriously! You will! Get the word out because the entire planet of academics have either not noticed or ignored these giant flaws that you claim to know about.

Back to reality now, you need to take a look at these "flawed experiments" and see for yourself. Are you referring to Miller-Urey? Gee... did you perhaps first hear about their "flaws" from a, oh i dunno... CHRISTIAN publication?????? Did Kent Hovind "debunk" it in one of his infamous videos? Did Banana-Man Ray Comfort or "Croc-a-Duck" Kirk Cameron debunk it? If so, then THEY should have already won the Nobel Prize.

Tell me, Owl, what proof would YOU need from an atheist like ME to believe in evolution? And if you say "Show me a duck give birth to a tomato," then your understanding of evolution is totally flawed.