Posts by DarioKehl

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Hypothetical RE: Gay Marriage

by DarioKehl in

the setup:.

the supreme court rules in favor of gay marriage across the board, regardless of state constitutions in the next few weeks.. a gay couple get happily married.

several months go by and one of them is contacted at the door by jws.

DarioKehl

The Setup:

The Supreme Court rules in favor of gay marriage across the board, regardless of state constitutions in the next few weeks.

A gay couple get happily married. Several months go by and one of them is contacted at the door by JWs. This individual is sincerely interested and becomes convinced that it's the truth. After sharing the information, the partner is also interested and they begin attending meetings together, thereby outing themselves as a gay (but genuinely interested & "earnestly seeking) couple to the congregation. What happens next?

Would they be permitted to continue attending meetings together as unbaptized people? Would the elders encourage them to get divorced? Why or why not? And if so, how could they justify divorce when it's condemned in the Bible?

I'm only asking because this is a very likely possibility at some point in the future and it will be a very interesting & potentially explosive case in terms of PR for JW dot org.

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Scientific Proof that Evolution is NOT Scientific!

by Nicola.threeangelsmessage in

jw
friends

bruce malone, an outstanding scientist has absolute scientific proof that evolution is not scientific!.

bruce, a leading researcher for dow chemical for 30 years; he is one of the top 100 inventors eighteen of his inventions raised millions of dollars; and has a b.s.

degree in chemical engineering.

DarioKehl

Once again, a fundamentalist demonstrates how they are unwilling to engage opponents in a reasonable discussion. They always revert to personal insults which does nothing to support their ridiculous claims.

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Scientific Proof that Evolution is NOT Scientific!

by Nicola.threeangelsmessage in

jw
friends

bruce malone, an outstanding scientist has absolute scientific proof that evolution is not scientific!.

bruce, a leading researcher for dow chemical for 30 years; he is one of the top 100 inventors eighteen of his inventions raised millions of dollars; and has a b.s.

degree in chemical engineering.

DarioKehl

Why do religitards believe that snark is an effective debate strategy?

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Summarize every the meeting in 20 seconds

by Sour Grapes in

jw
friends

the world is full of wickedness.. the end is very near.. we must do more.. how thankful we are for the governing body.

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DarioKehl

Beware of Satan's dangerous traps that lurk around on the so-called "information superhighway."

Avoid materialism! Today's wicked system puts undue importance on having the latest and greates technological gadgets, only to produce a new model moments later, making your investment obsolete in a very short time.

****SCREEEEEECH**** (vinyl record scrape noise)

wait---hold up! Scratch that, dear brothers...

Hang on a sec...

...ok, so Jehovah's chariot just took a last-minute detour. Go out and GET the roku and a new roku compatible TV. Yeah, and go ahead and GET the latest tablet (with wi-fi); preferably one for every member of your family. Doing so on a single window-washing income is a fine demonstration of loyalty indeed. Although we scorned the practice of bringing laptops or printouts of scriptures from our WTCD library in place of actually looking up scripture in a real NWT no less than 3 short years ago, we've pulled a 180 and no longer frown upon that. Our many apps available to you at double-u double-u double-u dot jay double-u dot org, will ensure quick and easy reference to accurate, up-to-date and (recently re-edited to fit the newest of light) spiritual food available at your fingertips. How loving for the slave to use this superhighway of information--a provision by Jehovah for us in these last days! Are we not grateful?

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JW.org does partial U-turn over Awake! magazine Rama Singh misquote

by Watchtower-Free in

posted on april 19, 2015http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/jw-org-does-partial-u-turn-over-awake-magazine-rama-singh-misquote

jw.org has removed their misquote of rama singh from digital versions of awake!

magazine.

DarioKehl

Awesome catch! If anyone has a printed copy with the misquote, now is a good time to take friends or family to JW.org & compare the 2 articles: "See? Told you! It freaking happens. And not just with their old material--this is in 2015! Use your f#%^ing noodle and wake up."

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I'm an ABSENTHEIST. Are you also?

by EdenOne in

it just dawned on me.

the existence of god can't be proved, neither is there evidence of god's inexistence.

so, i'm neither theist neither atheist.

DarioKehl

Belief in the absentee god is called deism.

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The mathematical probability of spontaneous order (no designer/creator)

by Fernando in

there seem to be many prerequisites for life as we know it.. to name a few: order, function, compatibility, availability, sustainability, intelligence, consciousness, intuition and so on.. focusing on only one, namely order.. what are the chances of order arising spontaneously, by chance, with no creator/designer?.

i have often pondered this and recently came across a mathematical summary of the big picture:.

if every particle in the known physical universe (10^80 particles), participated in one trillion interactions (10^12 interactions) per second, for the entire 30 billion years of the universe's existence (10^18 seconds), then we would by now have covered only 10^110 permutations.. if you had only 100 components in a container, what are the chances that a blindfolded person could lay them out in order on a table?.

DarioKehl

Fernando:

You do have honest & legitimate questions that most people who have recently left religion will (and should) be asking.

All of the points you've raised, believe it or not, have been studied heavily and there are hundreds of peer-reviewed journals on those topics. However, for the average person, it's hard to even know where to begin the investigation--many science journals were only available on pay sites or university libraries until a few years ago. Even now, it is hard to slug through all of the pseudoscience/creationist/conspiracy theory pages that will come up on page 1 of a Google search.

Might I suggest a link for you? I'll provide it below. But first, I want you to think about something:

Evolution involves two equally important things. The first (and usually the only one focused on by religions) is random mutation. Every publication by JWs stops there. They only focus on the exceedingly unlikely probabilities that the final observed product could have resulted "by chance."

They ignore the second (and most important) part: natural selection. There is a SELECTION process involved. In every example you gave in your OP, I want you to imagine a selective process in the system. For example, if a million monkeys were banging away on keyboards for thousands of years, they'd likely not produce the entire works of Shakespeare. But, if a selection process were introduced that saved each correct entry by all 1 million monkeys and excluded the nonsense entries based on a template, you'd have the works of Shakespeare in no time!

so, what you should be asking is, "what's the template and where did IT come from?"

that, my friend, is where your journey begins. PM me if you have any questions. But for now, take a look at the information at this link:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/

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Watchtower 'Experts' on Being Gay?

by jw07 in

have you seen this article?.

the watchtower is trying to be experts on all things having to do with human sexuality.. repressing sexual desires, gay or straight only creates more problems.. http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/teenagers/ask/pressure-to-be-gay/.

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DarioKehl

Disgusting.

heterosexuals who must also "flee from fornication" still have the option to eventually marry. Gays do not. they never address this! Have a follow-up article every 2 years with advice on how to cope with knowing you must remain celibate for the rest if your life. But, they won't. On to the next article about "wholesome hobbies."

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From 1 to 10, how do you rate the value of the Internet in your awakening?

by Hidden-Window in

jw
friends

as we all know, the internet is a real game-changer in allowing us to know the truth about the watch tower and its history.

i always had doubts and it was the internet that presented me with the ever-growing number of individuals who were going through a similar struggle.. i give the internet a 9 in my awakening.

what about you?.