DarioKehl
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One short New Testament verse sums up the problem with faith.
by nicolaou in"for we are walking by faith, not by sight" 2 corinthians 5:7. that's it right there.
don't value the evidence of your own eyes or trust what you can measure and test; no, just have faith.. the frustration is that even when this is pointed out to the devout believer they still don't see the problem.
they still see faith as a virtue and something superior to 'sight'..
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Coping With Atheism (Long-ish Post...sorry!)
by humblepotato inlong time lurker (2009-ish), first time poster.
first of all, i want to say thank you everyone who contributes to these boards and provokes stimulating conversations and thought processes.
all the opinions and different perspectives are very enlightening.
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DarioKehl
Perry:
micheal shermer did say that and your visual example on color is noteworthy.
however, neither one of those get us any closer to a virgin birth, walking on water or rising from the grave after 3 days.
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May’s ‘study WT’ admits having taught “far-fetched” ideas
by wheelwithinwheel innot on the front page, not in the study articles, but carefully camouflaged in the questions from readers on page 18 (watchtower march 15, 2015).
you can bet most jws wont even read it..
there is no apology...just the usual excuses..
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Is this article the one being considered tomorrow at the meeting?
this may give us a slight edge in debates. If this is all being tossed, then how can we have confidence in their interpretation of the blood doctrine or that 144,000 is a literal number rather than symbolic? They just gave us free ammunition.
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Coping With Atheism (Long-ish Post...sorry!)
by humblepotato inlong time lurker (2009-ish), first time poster.
first of all, i want to say thank you everyone who contributes to these boards and provokes stimulating conversations and thought processes.
all the opinions and different perspectives are very enlightening.
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DarioKehl
Hey potatoman...
you sound almost like me at that age. I was rapidly accelerated through the ranks and also put in charge of accounts lol.
anyway, I also went through that process once I embraced atheism. The idea of paradise and seeing your dead loved ones again is so compelling. It's hard to abandon. And that's largely why most JWs put up with the misery of being in such a burdensome religion.
but I found a thunderf00t video that really woke me up and changed my thoughts on "everlasting life" for good. Please give this a look--it's only about 2 minutes, but it may be just what you needed to hear. Welcome to the rest of your life.
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A Toast to Windchimes
by DarioKehl ini recently researched on jw dot org why toasts are not allowed.
in the article, they candidly admit that wedding bands also have pagan origins, but their modern understanding trumps this fact since they serve another function: signifying whether or not a person is married.
same with neck ties, i guess (although their pagan origins were not mentioned in the article).
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I recently researched on JW dot org why toasts are not allowed. In the article, they candidly admit that wedding bands also have pagan origins, but their modern understanding trumps this fact since they serve another function: signifying whether or not a person is married. Same with neck ties, I guess (although their pagan origins were not mentioned in the article).
What I'd like to know is, doesn't toasting have a modern understanding as a customary courtesy--a way of saying "good health," or "he/she's a jolly good fellow?" Why is toasting scorned but wedding bands aren't? And who got the final say on that decision?
If Mother's Day, Father's Day and birthdays are forbidden because they're forms of idolatry, then why are wedding anniversaries and graduation parties allowed? There are no good explanations for the contradiction.
If Pokemon, Smurfs & He-Man are frowned upon, then why does every JW I know give the Wizard of Oz and every Disney movie a free pass?
The bans on peace signs, wind chimes, dream catchers, beards, piercings, color dyed hair, and R-rated movies make no sense to me either.
When international conventions come up, it's ok for delegates to be decked out in traditional clothing from their culture. Surely, some of those have origins that could be called "pagan." And how is that not nationalism?
How are JW dot org pins not idolatry? I clearly remember JWs purposely not putting the watchtower symbol anywhere on their buildings, signs or engraving it into the podium--certainly not wearing it--but this JW dot org flair really perplexes me.
What other objects, customs & practices have you wondering why they're banned when other arguably similar things are not?
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why did man go from living 900 years to 90?
by sowhatnow ini cant recall the scripture, where it says than only a few men will he live to be 80 years or so, can anyone recall that?.
so then im wondering, if it is a fact that men lived long years 900 in some cases, for what reason would god limit our lifespan if our time is so short compared to his?.
how on earth does man go from living 8 and 9 hundred years down to 80 to 100 ?.
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Unplugged fans & water canopies--it's all crap.
it's as true as the walking smurf legend.
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Today's WT
by OneFingerSalute inso today's wt seems to put out the idea that during early christian times it was god's hand that made the romans build roads, have strong laws, etc.
to make the preaching easier.. anyone else notice that?
some here really banged on about how great it was that god did that, just for them.
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In the late 90s, the KM scornfully referred to the internet as the "so-called" information superhighway. -
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"Evidence" of a "smokelike pall"... This was the last straw for me back in 2008. Fade began with this:
by DarioKehl infrom that nutty red book of insanity, the grand climax at hand book, chapter 22, paragraphs 7 & 8. .
i had my doubts since childhood.
i went along with it to please people.
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Mille210:
not sure as I am also faded. But I believe this book is no longer in print.
im not sure if it's even in the library at JW dot org (I heard that the trinity brochure was erased from history as well).
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"Evidence" of a "smokelike pall"... This was the last straw for me back in 2008. Fade began with this:
by DarioKehl infrom that nutty red book of insanity, the grand climax at hand book, chapter 22, paragraphs 7 & 8. .
i had my doubts since childhood.
i went along with it to please people.
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DarioKehl
It's funny how relatively new this book was and how recently it was covered in book study.
If you follow the trends, it seems since the 2006-2008 era, that's when the big shift began: a wave of "newly annointed," a wave of mass exodus or fading, the alert from WT about following direction even when it may not make sense "from a human standpoint," the dissolving of book study...
that period seems to me to mark the end of 20th century J-dubdom and, in some bizzarre molting cocoon phase, a new slick polished shiny refined ultra modern high-tech commercial 21st century incarnation arose. Coupled with that, however, was the emergence of YouTube in 2006 and social media (YouTube was where I first saw exjw videos). While online activism began with massive outreach, JWs were learning about how our church leaders' time in the slammer fulfilled bible prophecy. We saw the number of annointed rise every year since this 4th time in the Climax! book. People woke the eff up---I mean, look at the evidence! I can't believe how many friends of mine sat thru that book study and are also free from this crap today.
2007-08 was not that long ago and look at the massive changes. Look at how they've buried this book--you can't find it anywhere. They're ashamed and embarrassed by it and they know it woke people up to TTATT.
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"Evidence" of a "smokelike pall"... This was the last straw for me back in 2008. Fade began with this:
by DarioKehl infrom that nutty red book of insanity, the grand climax at hand book, chapter 22, paragraphs 7 & 8. .
i had my doubts since childhood.
i went along with it to please people.
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DarioKehl
We went through the Climax! book in '91-92 also. I remember having to run mics for it.