strange question.
the question should be,
"What if humans never decided to write down history?"
(remember the bible is many little scrolls from different time periods in one book.)
the answer is -
Then we would NEVER learn from our mistakes.
i'm thinking way outside the box here.... i looked up my thread title before starting this thread and guess what??.
no one appears to have ever considered this question before.... i've seen far, far, far too many people of european/british isles/african/american extraction defending this regional middle-eastern 'god', without realizing that their ancestors would never have willingly consented to give up their own deities to worship this interloper thrust upon them, usually at the point of a roman sword... or occasionally for trading advantages, as in the case of many of the heathen viking - norsemen.... so.
what if the bible had never existed?.
strange question.
the question should be,
"What if humans never decided to write down history?"
(remember the bible is many little scrolls from different time periods in one book.)
the answer is -
Then we would NEVER learn from our mistakes.
after carefully evaluating the my current life situation, i've come to the conclusion that returning to the hall will be best for me.
i simply just don't fit in with the rest of the world.
i don't drink, smoke, have sex, go to clubs, listen to worldly music, watch movies, or gamble.
so on judgement day when god askes you why you returned to the jdubs, you will say "I couldn't find my place in the world and so i went back to the jdubs."
then he might ask, "what about all the blasphemy they are responsible for? don't you realize by sideing with them you will receive the same judgement?"
then what do you say?
think about the eternal consequenses you face in the decisions you make now.
those under law are tried by the same law. all jdubs carry bibles and so all jdubs will be judged according to the words in the bible.
if you failed to understand the words in the book, it's YOUR fault. after all, you are also the one preaching what that book says.
remember, just because you don't agree with something the jdubs do or say, if you are a jdub you will be considered a jdub on judgement day.
did you read about Babel in Jashar?
i thought that was amazing information.
do you notice how it is hard to remember all the information to tell to others? as if they have to read it for themselfs to "get it"? maybe it's just me but i got excited about the info when i read the book.
i suggest to you also "The First Book of Adam and Eve", "The Second Book of Adam and Eve" and "The Book of Enoch - R.H. Charles."
there are several translations for these old scrolls. especially for enoch. the occult really likes "The Book of Enoch" because it gives lots of information about the fallen angels, and even though the book is VERY CLEAR on the consequenses for occult spiritism, they thrive on the information. there is a few complete forgerys out there but you can spot it in the first few chapters.
the book titles in the first paragraph are the legitimate ones in my own opinion. you do your own research. they are all available on the sacred texts website. watch out for the "other books of enoch" on the website....
http://www.670kboi.com/rssitem.asp?feedid=118&itemid=29671679.
new york) -- harold camping is "mystified" and "a little bewildered" that the rapture did not go as he predicted, an associate of the california preacher told abc news.. .
tom evans, a board member of camping's family radio international, said that camping's wife told him her husband is at their home in oakland and has no intention to speak or issue any statement on sunday or monday.. .
i wouldn't be suprised if this all amounts to something big. and it will have been pre-planned.
like the backlash from his followers and the rest of society might trigger a new attitude about organized religion....
or each one of these false prophets is another "boy who cryed wolf" and soon we won't even pay attention when a real prophet shows up?
or people involved in a cult will decide to look at thier own beliefs to see if they are legit.
thank god that jesus warned us about this guy and others like him.
"LOOK! I HAVE FOREWARNED YOU." - Jesus.
ladies and gentlemen, i believe this is a PROPHESY FULFILLED!
if the book is a lie...
somebody devoted their time to fool me,
for what purpose?
i didn't pay any money for it.
it gave me more details about events that nobody can prove or disprove and the details don't change the base story. the details add to it, makeing the story more a reality to the reader.
so the book of jasher made my faith STRONGER. and that made me a better person.
so if an ancient writer wrote a book of lies that make me a more moral person and helps me believe in god more, what's his aim?
to keep me a god fearing human? what is wrong with that?
read the books before you believe they are lies. the ring of truth is always present.
my brother will be getting one of those quite soon.
he's getting ready to marry the "worldly" girl he's dated for 4 years.
he's not been to any meetings in 4 years and has no plans on returning.
it is sadly impressive how stubborn some witness become.
they are the biggest drama queens out there. they always uphold their society influenced ideals over being decent human beings.
To miss out on your childs wedding to make a statement for your religion takes some serious dedication.
they think they will be commended by god someday for standing firm when thier son or daughter married a "non-believer".
crazy one dimensional thinking. they are so scared about the "consequenses" of your actions that they don't want to be any part of it when god or jesus shows up. thier fears become thier punishment to you. and its all due to them being "programmed" that way by the jdubs. only jdubs will be saved in a jdubs mind.
my folks never met my girlfriend of 7 years.
my parents attempted to not show at my brothers kindom hall wedding because they didn't approve of his choice of wife. she was approved by the congregation enough to allow a KH wedding, but she didn't stand up in my parents eyes. they did show up at the last minute because the elders pressure on them, then my mother threatened my bros wife to be and then we proceded with the wedding. they didn't go to the reception.
jdubs are crazy, unintelligent, unreasonable, lack common sense and basic human decency. they are robots and have been programmed. if your programming failed, be thankful.
good luck!
ok, so the witnesses will tell you until they are blue in the face, what they hold is the truth, and that jesus has returned already!
(supposedly in 1914, due to some bizarre calculation of theirs).
but didn't jesus say on many occasions, (several times in chapter 24 matt) that many will come about and say there is the christ!
c t russell said jesus had a invisible return and has been invisibly present since 1914 ruling in the midst of his enemies.
they took this stand after 1914 came and went with no visible jesus.
instead of russell admitting he was wrong about his "pyramid" date, he lied and said he was right, jesus returned like russell said but "invisibly".
you see, if he would have admitted then that he was wrong, he would have been admitting to being a false prophet. and then he would lose all the smart people following him.
so the bible is VERY CLEAR about jesus return.
every eye will see him.
if anyone tells you he is here or there or in the wilderness or in the inner rooms, do not believe him.
he comes with the clouds.ETC.
Humans will KNOW when the real jesus shows back up. you won't need to ask. it will be something that we have never witnessed as humans in this generation.
the "inner rooms" scripture is great. i remember jdubs telling me that the "inner rooms" ment the congregations. then if you find the right scripture, jesus tells you that anyone telling you that he is in the inner rooms is a false prophet. HA HA!
real jesus has not returned yet. otherwise we would already know about it. case closed.
if this has been covered before i apologise in advance.
using only the bible and a bit of common sense.. ok, here goes:.
do the "seventy years" count from jerusalems destruction or not?
Ann - keep going. you are right on. good job.
egg - walk away. you got served and you sound foolish now.
so if somebody wants to summerize, what does egg have left to stand on from his original post of "facts"?
the bible refers to the book of jashar at joshua 10:13. this is when the sun stood still and the moon stopped.. it is also referred to in the 2nd book of samuel 1:18 where it says: "behold it is written in the book of jasher.".
why did they leave it out of the bible yet quote from it as an authority?.
oh ya, they left it out of the bible cause it is too detailed. hard to call it a fable when you have so many little details.
all the books left out of the bible have too much information in them for the masses. to keep the people controlled, control what they know.
besides, most people don't even know the bible.
the bible refers to the book of jashar at joshua 10:13. this is when the sun stood still and the moon stopped.. it is also referred to in the 2nd book of samuel 1:18 where it says: "behold it is written in the book of jasher.".
why did they leave it out of the bible yet quote from it as an authority?.
the book still exists and you can find it on pdf. form on the internet.
www.sacred-texts.com
amazing amount of detail in the book about subjects that are familiar to us all.
and it doesn't have too much to say about the sun standing still. it mentions it but the account in the bible is more detailed.
there is a great bit about the Tower of Babel in the book.
too many things to remember to tell you. read it for yourself and judge if it is an inspired book.
i think it is.