LeslieV

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  Posting Here: secretly or openly?

  by AllAlongTheWatchtower in

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  2. family

  just curious, how many of you have to hide the fact that you post here from family?

  i'm especially thinking of those with spouses who are in, while they themselves either never were, faded, dfed/daed, etc but if you are a child hiding it from parents, that applies too.

  if you are posting secretly, how secretive do you have to be?

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  LeslieV

  Leslie Vattimo

  Jamestown, NY

  I am about as open as you can get...everyone here knows I am an open apostate.
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  Update! Drew Sagan is no longer a Jehovah's Witness

  by drew sagan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as promised here is all of the info regarding what has been going on.

  per the last jc with the elders i realized that all i had done was buy time.

  they felt that we should be df'ed right on the spot, but because i made a plea to wait for a letter coming back from the wts they decided to hold on taking such action.

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  LeslieV

  I told my non-JW husband of the reason that your wife was DF'd. He had an interesting comment. My husband works in the ER at our local hospital. The name of the hospital is WCA..stands for Women's Christian Association. Now he is laughing even more at the JW's. He treats JW's all the time, doesn't seem to bother them coming to the hospital that is owned by the same type of association that owns the YMCA.

  Leslie
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  My Wife Asked About My Mother-

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i use my opportunities with my wife to have mini-interventions, but i do things differently with .

  my mother.

  she knows that i am no longer an elder, but she hasn't asked more about what's .

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  LeslieV

  I think you are handling fading wonderfully well. You wife is afraid to ask you any questions because she is afraid of the answers. It isn't that those questions aren't asking you in her mind...giving voice to it she might be afraid of what she would have to do with the information. Sometimes ignorance is bliss....especially if you are a JW. Remember leaving is a process...everyone has to leave at their own speed. Good luck we are here for you.

  Leslie
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  What Lakes Do You Play At?

  by smellsgood in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this weekend i'm headed to priest lake in idaho...my family has a cabin up there and i've gone there my whole life.

  i'm obsessed with picking huckleberries, which are my most favorite berries.

  huckleberry pie is wicked tasty.

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  LeslieV

  The city I live in is right by the lake. Chautuaqua Lake in Western New York.

  Leslie

  www.chautauqualake.org
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  Update: So I've been going to some meetings (and other things)

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've been absent from this board from some time, as i've been through alot the past few months.

  firstly, my mother passed away after complications from her surgery.

  so i've lost my entire family since 1999. i'm an only child.

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  LeslieV

  I am so sorry to hear about your mom, and you loosing all of your family.

  Your life is your life. There is no one here making judgments against you. I know for myself I have had enough condemnation and judgment to last a lifetime. Just be cautious about life as a JW. The are all about judgment and control. Live your life for what is best for you and your child. Good luck to you.

  Leslie
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  Update! Drew Sagan is no longer a Jehovah's Witness

  by drew sagan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as promised here is all of the info regarding what has been going on.

  per the last jc with the elders i realized that all i had done was buy time.

  they felt that we should be df'ed right on the spot, but because i made a plea to wait for a letter coming back from the wts they decided to hold on taking such action.

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  LeslieV

  Now if that isn't showing Christ's love. I even think Jesus would have punched that elder in the chops for his sarcastic answer about your family. It isn't even me, and I am incensed at their lack of compassion. IT IS A CULT!!! Thank the Lord you and your wife are out. Welcome to the "truth" about the "lie."

  Leslie
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  Life lost

  by Phil in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have previously posted on the subject of finding people who could help me get some testimonials from experienced jws who have been shunned by friends and family.

  this was my way of getting my daughter to wake up to the realities of what is going on with the organization she is associated with.

  much to my sadness, i have been notified by her husband that she died this morning of lung cancer.

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  I am so sorry Phil...what a tragedy. My thoughts are with you and your family.

  Leslie
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  I am going to TRY and leave JWD for the time being!

  by AK - Jeff in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am an addict.

  and that is one good reason to back off some.

  but the overriding reason is that my nerves have been frayed lately by the actions of a hidden 'stalker', a jw who is hiding behind a cyber-curtain.

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  LeslieV

  Enjoy your summer....Hope you can come back when this idiot gets tired of bothering you.

  I have to say anyone that is stalking you is a CRIME. Stalking anyone using the internet has more consequenses then stalking you in person. Tell this person that if he/she contacts you again in anyway you will go to the police. Good Luck

  Leslie
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  This site is BAD for me!!!

  by Metamorphosis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's making me want to rush the convincing of my wife - i want confrontation now, and i want it to go good, and i want her out with me!

  how can you folks do this to me... before starting on this site i was just trying to get by myself w/ my decision - see what you've done!!!!

  now i'm convinced i have to talk to her and make her see what i see!!

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  LeslieV

  Morph,

  Remember when we first became JW's? There is an old expression.... to put ones in a box for 6 months before you let them out, since they cause more damage then help. It is no different once you learn the "truth" about the "lie." Baby steps with her or she will completely freak out on you. Take time to take it all in yourself first.....Then begin a planned decisive way to speak to her. Think, think, think first. She is still indoctrinated by the borg, and even though she loves you...she also has been brainwashed to tell elders about apostates. Even if it is your own family. Keep coming back here and vent away.

  Leslie
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  Wife and kids left me

  by thepackage in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  long story short, (i'll post it later), after many years of problems with the wts my wife and kids left me and she has filed for divorce (no adultery was committed).

  feeling really sad right now.

  i was a great husband and father, however, i could not take the thought of going to any more meetings and have over the last year started to find was to avoid meetings.

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  LeslieV

  I am so sorry this has happened to you, and your children. Please remember that you have a right to raise your children. The congregation will make her feel that she has all rights, and since you have turned your back on Jeh that you have none. They will use your feelings of guilt against you. Please, Please, Please for your children's sake do not let this happen. Go after somekind of partial custody...it is there chance of having a real life. Find an attorney pronto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  Leslie