I guess I have no problem being faithful to what is true, but I have a big problem with being faithful to a lie.
Leslie
active witnesses see us apostates as "unfaithful people" who took an oath to serve god as jw's and we stopped and left the organization.. we on the other hand, see the watchtower as unfaithful to their past teachings because they changed so much during the years.
on top of that even what they didn't change, it's not happening.. so, who was the most unfaithful, us, or the watchtower?.
I guess I have no problem being faithful to what is true, but I have a big problem with being faithful to a lie.
Leslie
my brother gave me a wonderful gift yesterday.
he said 'make sure you attach it to your car keys right away, it could save your life!
' wow.
Gotta love making money by walking on the graves of others. Makes me want to puke!
Leslie
i hope it's alright that i post a question, even though i've never had any affiliation with jw organization.
i have a friend who has been trying to convince me for years to study with jw.
i've been doing alot of research on jw and was just wondering if people here would be kind enough to tell me why they have decided to quit their affiliation with jw organization.
For myself one of the main reasons I walked away after being an active JW all my life is my three daughters. I decided I wanted my girls to have an education, and not be treated as second class citizens. I was tired of my ex elder husband telling my girls at the age of 12 who would be suitable marriage mates. Looking at all these young people getting married at 18 because they could not have sex without loosing their family made me run. Now my girls are in college and realize that the JW religion is a cult. I would suggest you stay as far away as you can from studying the bible with a cult.
Leslie
jesus had only 12 members attend and partake the last meal and memorial.there were no observers in the room.each disciple was given bread to eat and wine to drink.there is no mention of other people in the room who couldn't eat or drink the last meal.this was only for those who would partake of this meal.. why does the wts feel that observers need to be at this yearly event?
why can't the elders who(supposedly) have any 144,000 in their congregations,have a memorial with only these members?
if jesus wanted observers he would of had some at his last meal and requested that they be present from then on..
I was always afraid that I would spill the wine when it was coming down the row towards me. My ex husband started partaking when he was in his 30's. So I have always seen individuals partake. Since he was an active alcoholic you can imagine he made sure he got to take the wine home after the memorial. I always thought it was comical that the kids couldn't wait until it was over so they could eat the icky crackers that were left on the plates. These same kids wouldn't touch those crackers if they had them at home.
Leslie
in the last year i made myself aware of wts.
then i resigned from elder, i stopped service , i stopped family study, but i'm still a formal jw.
my wife is still a convinced jw, and we often "discuss" (really sometime we scream a bit too much).
I think leaving with my three daughters was the most challenging decision in my life. At the time they were 6, 9, 12. My 12 year old was very involved in the religion. Was an unbaptized pub, used in parts etc. Also, I divorced my JW elder husband at the sametime. So I let them leave alittle at a time. My 12 and 6 year old still wanted to attend the meetings so I let the JW's pick them up. They got tired of that after awhile and it stopped. Also, I put my children in after school activities, things that in the past they were not allowed to do. I got them involved in art, sports after awhile they didn't have time for the meetings etc. I have to say it took years to get rid of the brainwashing, but today they are all in college and recognize the JW religion as a cult. Good luck we are here for you.
Leslie
hi all, been "lurking" (phrase i picked up here) for some time now, felt it was time to come out of the closet!
quick bio: live in the us virgin islands.
baptised at 18. elder at 28. married but separated 6yrs now.
Welcome..glad you decided to stay.
Leslie
i've been reading a while and decided to join in.
my jw experience: my mom got hooked during a vulnerable period (marriage split up).
we went to a couple of congregations in queens, ny, and then moved to the finger lakes area of upstate ny.
Welcome to the board glad to have you here with all of us.
Leslie
i remembers skating parties at least once a month, volleyball at the park, get-togethers where everyone would play bible charades and sing kingdoms songs, going to the river to swim with the whole congregation after the sunday meeting, spending the afternoon at the lake eating watermelon and water skiing.
it was a great upbringing!
also, i dont want to leave out the strong feelings of eliteness that i had even as a child, of having the truth.
Yup, I sure remember having lots of fun. Remember how big weddings were in the 70's and 80's? We always had a congregation picinic once a year. Would invite other local congregations also!!! Toward the end of the 80's all that stopped. Replaced by little weddings, no picnics. Making all the get togethers small even made more divisions in the KH. Only certain families got together, ie elders, pioneers etc. It sure never made others that were not in the "in" crowd ever feel a part of the congregation.
Leslie
i'm a newbie on here.
been away from the truth for nearly a year now and have just got my divorce from my violent ex who is stil serving in the congregation.
found things hard and still am, as the 'truth' is all i've ever known....so am on here for some well needed support, if thats ok?
So glad that you are with us, but even more glad that you got away from an abuser. Not easy to do in the JW religion. Not only is the abuser into control and power, so is the religion. Keep coming back!!!!
Leslie
please join me in toasting our two friends, dedpoet and fullofdoubtnow who have just exchanged vows.
linda and trevor - we love you so much and know that your happiness will join you together for so many years to come.. congratulations!.
Congrats and best wishes to you both!!!
Leslie