Our thoughts are with you Phil. I wish I was closer I would be there. Just know that all of us are with you in spirit.
Leslie
i have previously posted on the subject of finding people who could help me get some testimonials from experienced jws who have been shunned by friends and family.
this was my way of getting my daughter to wake up to the realities of what is going on with the organization she is associated with.
much to my sadness, i have been notified by her husband that she died this morning of lung cancer.
Our thoughts are with you Phil. I wish I was closer I would be there. Just know that all of us are with you in spirit.
Leslie
of course i'm talking about death.
i know in the borg, since most people are cheap, or don't have money, there was always a push for cremation.
i know my grandmother was cremated, as well as my father in law, and i think the issue was more for finances.
I personally have no issue with cremation. What my issue is just throwing the remains helter skelter. The cemetaries are where history is. I tell my family to burn me up, just plant me someplace with my name. It is history for those that come after me, and there is a place for my kids, grandkids etc, can come.
All of my family are JW's. Everyone of them that has passed they just plotted anyplace they wanted with no burial. Now I can't even talk to them, place flowers on a grave etc. They made sure all of their remains were plotted on their lands, so that no apostates could even get close. Apostate = me. So even in death they have kept my family from me.
Leslie
just curious, how many of you have to hide the fact that you post here from family?
i'm especially thinking of those with spouses who are in, while they themselves either never were, faded, dfed/daed, etc but if you are a child hiding it from parents, that applies too.
if you are posting secretly, how secretive do you have to be?
Leslie Vattimo
Jamestown, NY
I am about as open as you can get...everyone here knows I am an open apostate.
as promised here is all of the info regarding what has been going on.
per the last jc with the elders i realized that all i had done was buy time.
they felt that we should be df'ed right on the spot, but because i made a plea to wait for a letter coming back from the wts they decided to hold on taking such action.
I told my non-JW husband of the reason that your wife was DF'd. He had an interesting comment. My husband works in the ER at our local hospital. The name of the hospital is WCA..stands for Women's Christian Association. Now he is laughing even more at the JW's. He treats JW's all the time, doesn't seem to bother them coming to the hospital that is owned by the same type of association that owns the YMCA.
Leslie
i use my opportunities with my wife to have mini-interventions, but i do things differently with .
my mother.
she knows that i am no longer an elder, but she hasn't asked more about what's .
I think you are handling fading wonderfully well. You wife is afraid to ask you any questions because she is afraid of the answers. It isn't that those questions aren't asking you in her mind...giving voice to it she might be afraid of what she would have to do with the information. Sometimes ignorance is bliss....especially if you are a JW. Remember leaving is a process...everyone has to leave at their own speed. Good luck we are here for you.
Leslie
this weekend i'm headed to priest lake in idaho...my family has a cabin up there and i've gone there my whole life.
i'm obsessed with picking huckleberries, which are my most favorite berries.
huckleberry pie is wicked tasty.
The city I live in is right by the lake. Chautuaqua Lake in Western New York.
Leslie
i've been absent from this board from some time, as i've been through alot the past few months.
firstly, my mother passed away after complications from her surgery.
so i've lost my entire family since 1999. i'm an only child.
I am so sorry to hear about your mom, and you loosing all of your family.
Your life is your life. There is no one here making judgments against you. I know for myself I have had enough condemnation and judgment to last a lifetime. Just be cautious about life as a JW. The are all about judgment and control. Live your life for what is best for you and your child. Good luck to you.
Leslie
as promised here is all of the info regarding what has been going on.
per the last jc with the elders i realized that all i had done was buy time.
they felt that we should be df'ed right on the spot, but because i made a plea to wait for a letter coming back from the wts they decided to hold on taking such action.
Now if that isn't showing Christ's love. I even think Jesus would have punched that elder in the chops for his sarcastic answer about your family. It isn't even me, and I am incensed at their lack of compassion. IT IS A CULT!!! Thank the Lord you and your wife are out. Welcome to the "truth" about the "lie."
Leslie
i have previously posted on the subject of finding people who could help me get some testimonials from experienced jws who have been shunned by friends and family.
this was my way of getting my daughter to wake up to the realities of what is going on with the organization she is associated with.
much to my sadness, i have been notified by her husband that she died this morning of lung cancer.
I am so sorry Phil...what a tragedy. My thoughts are with you and your family.
Leslie
i am an addict.
and that is one good reason to back off some.
but the overriding reason is that my nerves have been frayed lately by the actions of a hidden 'stalker', a jw who is hiding behind a cyber-curtain.
Enjoy your summer....Hope you can come back when this idiot gets tired of bothering you.
I have to say anyone that is stalking you is a CRIME. Stalking anyone using the internet has more consequenses then stalking you in person. Tell this person that if he/she contacts you again in anyway you will go to the police. Good Luck
Leslie