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Describe The Jehovah's Witness Community

by minimus in

jw
friends

in your experience, are witnesses all about love?.

is the brotherhood really what it is said to be?.

did you feel the love from "the friends"?.

Lieu

I was raised in 3 different congregations and I would have to say that it depended on the congregation. There seemed to be vast differences.

Interesting, yet I have to agree. I've been to KHs from Europe, Latin America, to the US.The US is the only place where I've been and had an entire body of Elders be disbanned ... but now I know why since it was in the early 1980s. (The Franz split.)

I will say, the KHs in the other countries were far better than those in the US. Especially in the caring about one another category. My opinion, mind you. It has a lot to do with the culture of the country. The US is a 'me first' non community oriented environment and that rubs off on people whether they admit it or not. It's more stand-offish and distant by nature.

Think about how immigrants come from other places and band together as a community and lift on another up, etc. Its in their very being to be community oriented.

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Describe The Jehovah's Witness Community

by minimus in

jw
friends

in your experience, are witnesses all about love?.

is the brotherhood really what it is said to be?.

did you feel the love from "the friends"?.

Lieu

Nope, phoney. Everything, including the so-called "love", is conditional and quite temporary.

Just watch the behavior during a CO visit as opposed to the behavior normally. People will speak to you who otherwise never speak.

Or start an unfounded rumor and watch as everyone turns on the rumored person w/o bothering to ask if anything being said is even true.

Its stifling; people are always walking around as if on pins and needles and not as if their feet are firmly planted on the ground.

Emotionless "pretense".

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If you won the lottery whilst being a JW.....

by mtsgrad in

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friends

what impact would that have on your life?

an elder told me he would be very repentant and then spend every penny/cent?.

what would you do if you won $9,000,000?.

Lieu

I'd give my family some money then move out of the country (to someplace warm and cozy) and change my name.

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End Times Preaching and Armageddon - has the WTS made a new push on this?

by insearchoftruth in

my wife has been an on again, off again sympathizer of the jws.

she recieved a phone call this past weekend from a sister who had attempted to study with her in the past and all of a sudden she is reading all the wts literature she can on the meaning of armageddon and the topic of paradise earth.

has the wts started a new push on this topic as of late??

Lieu

Ew, still

There's no need for an "org" now so what in the world would there be a need for one in the 'new system'? Yuk! Who in the world would be needing human mediators and go-betweens getting in the way in the "New System"? Why do they think they know better than God? The vanity! They can't even get what God says right in this "System".

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As for the wife, tell her to pay attention to what is being said at the CA and the specific use of scriptures out of context. She will be encountering people who absolutely believe some men can never be wrong even when what they say goes contrary to God. Its a high control group, no different from Catholicism in its belief of a few being infallible. That's always the problem when you have a group of individuals who say they alone have a special channel to God.

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Lieu

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The three greatest teachings of Jesus

by darth frosty in

the three greatest teachings of jesus.

are all cancelled out by the practices and teaching of the fds.

jesus gave three outstanding examples of what it is to be a follower of his and the actions and mindset that you should have, all three of these teachings or example's are diminished by the practices of jw's.

Lieu

I have concluded from this topic that my lost brothers and sisters are followers of Paul. Think about it, they talk up Paul so much you'd think he was the Messiah.

The only thing mentioned about Jesus is the Memorial and sheeps and goats. That's it.

Nothing about the fishes and bread for the hungry crowd listening to the Sermon, nothing about helping strangers in a real and physical way, nothing about the prodigal son's silliness and the happiness (despite the silliness) of his pop on his return.

Nada.

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The three greatest teachings of Jesus

by darth frosty in

the three greatest teachings of jesus.

are all cancelled out by the practices and teaching of the fds.

jesus gave three outstanding examples of what it is to be a follower of his and the actions and mindset that you should have, all three of these teachings or example's are diminished by the practices of jw's.

Lieu

"Great post! I've thought of these things but couldn't have said it so clearly. When I was a JW the thing I found the most comfort in was the Greatest Man book. The teachings and illustrations of Jesus are so simple and reflective of God's love. I came to see that God was not harsh, demanding and unreasonable in his requirements; however, the organization certainly was unreasonable and demanding. Studying about Jesus's teachings gave me hope, and caused me to doubt and eventually discard the attitude of JWs. "

Wow!! Weird, for some odd reason I loved that book. :) It was the first one (for adults) that actually talked about Jesus and was well-written. I was shocked!! I also got one of the strangest yet peaceful feelings in my life after reading it.

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How the annointed KNOW that they are...........I must be ALSO!!!

by nomoreguilt in

it just came to me out of the morning mist.

i was standing in my garage having a smoke just a few minutes ago.

so, i was thinking about the day to come and i had my hands in my pockets.

Lieu

I keep having this really weird dream that I'm the Destroyer angel. Outfitted with some pretty cool golden armor to boot.

Odd.

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End Times Preaching and Armageddon - has the WTS made a new push on this?

by insearchoftruth in

my wife has been an on again, off again sympathizer of the jws.

she recieved a phone call this past weekend from a sister who had attempted to study with her in the past and all of a sudden she is reading all the wts literature she can on the meaning of armageddon and the topic of paradise earth.

has the wts started a new push on this topic as of late??

Lieu

I think its shameful to bait people with "the paradise earth". The supposed reason for everything is the vindication of God's name. Why put the "New System" out there in a manner of more prestige than vindicating the Name?

It makes it seem like the reason for going along with the JWs is solely for personal gains. Gotta get into the "New System" at all cost.

Kinda like wanting to go to heaven just to be in charge.

You get this nice "fruit", live forever, know good and bad type deal. Join me. Sheesh! Not having IE is a mess on this forum.

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embarrassed about having been a witness?

by purplesofa in

jw
friends

last weekend witnesses came to where i work....i work at a barbque restuarant (hey it's fun!

) i recognized two elders before they came in and freaked!!!!!.

the elder obnoxious was at the register and i was sure he did not recognize me.

Lieu

LOL. "Born-in", sounds like a vampire movie. Some weere born vampires and some were made vampires.

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Don't JWs Get Humiliated Everytime They Say THIS Time The End Is CLOSE!!!!!

by minimus in

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friends

i don't get it!

Lieu

Its like telling a 10 yr old, you'll be 50 sooner than you think.

No matter, we are talking about people who have a belief system built on numerology and astrology moreso than the actual Bible.