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  Is this Kingdom Hall Creepy?

  by kurtbethel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is a hall in oceanside, california.

  it is hidden away from the street on a nondescript lane.. .

  no windows!.

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  ... eerily like those buildings at the death camps.
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  1941 Watchtower Convention Resolution Condemning Moyle -- PDF!

  by cabasilas in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  background:.

  when olin r. moyle wrote his letter of resignation to j.f.

  rutherford in 1939 he really hit the judge's nerve.

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  JR was quite vindictive.
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  WHERE in the bible does it say each creative day was 6,000 years? Ending around 1975??

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. scandals

  could be 8,000 or 18,000 years long......if to jehovah each "a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years a day.

  " 1975 armagedon theory was based on this.

  {notice how this theory has since died off} my wife was told off by an elder for giving a talk on "creative days not 24 hours" but not stating each was 6,000 years long...she said she didn't believe it....he backed off and said okay then!

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  Kinda like asking where in the Bible does it say Christ would return "invisibly".

  No where.
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  Smurfs????????

  by cantleave in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  every now and then i come across comical references to smurfs in posts on this site, i have been in the org all my life and never heard of any demonisation of father abraham's little blue imaginary friends, even when they they hit the uk top ten singles chart.

  can someone enlighten me of what was said, where and when?

  maybe i missed it because i was more concerned about kiss using an ouija board in plane or axel rose being anagram of oral sex!!!

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  Haaaaaa! I remember hearing the smurf silliness around 1984.
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  Wouldn't HELL be a great Party compared to Witness Paradise?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  all the party animals would be there...all the pornstars, slutty women {and men} drinking, drugs...nightclubs!

  gambling!

  all the celebrities are there, brittney spears, and hubby stealer angelina jolie {brad pitt} compared to witness paradise this sounds like fun!.

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  I always thought being stuck forever in the 1950s was Hell.
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  APOSTATES LIE !!!

  by elder-schmelder in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  all i have ever head my whole life at meetings is that apostates are full of lies.. about 1 year ago i started checking into the lie.

  all i can find is quote's from watchtowers and other books.. .

  my question is "what is the lie that apostates are telling?".

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  Um, I don't think the Portestant Reformation folks cared one iota to be called "Apostate" and "liars" by the RCC, ... and look we all got a copy of the Bible to read for ourselves out of it all.

  +1 for those wild n crazy apostate liars.

  Hmmmm, maybe someone should go nail a "list" to the front door at Hqts? (Make sure the media is present)
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  New Kingdom Melodies - samples on youtube

  by Nostromo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sorry if these have been posted before:.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygci6xgdwsg&feature=related.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p24vkzb5jw4.

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  Not too shabby but what will it sound like when people actually try to sing with it? Will it be the concert version or the boring voidness of the piano version?

  And what's with the classical music sickness?

  Ah well, I never looked at going to the Hall as "worship", more like an interpretive history class.
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  Everybody Wants Slaves

  by metatron in

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  2. friends

  who wants a slave?

  answer: everybody wants slaves!

  slaves can't strike.

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  "Indentured Servitude" is the name of the game. Its really slavery which pays an amount which never is enough to pay off debt which in turn brings more debt requiring continued servitude. You see that in places where the price of commodities continue to rise, jobs are scarce, but the base salary stays the same (flatlines). [ie Third World countries.]

  Plus basic "usury"; which we are supposed to have laws against in the 21st Century.

  Its all the rage.

  ....and yes, pharmas are definitely trying hard to sell people on pills here in the US. Commercials run all day and night here ... the side effect lists are scarey to boot. A large number of children are pill poppers ranging from anti depressants to ritalin.
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  Do Jehovah's Witnesses even know their own teachings...

  by Tuesday in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've had a rash of people commenting on my videos lately that seem to not even understand their own teachings.

  it leads me to question if jehovah's witnesses can even explain their own beliefs.

  for example if i ask a question about the 1914 doctrine specifically about the biblical backing behind 607 bce being the year for the destruction of jerusalem, 9 times out of 10 i'm going to get some sort of answer that involves the "prophecy" in matthew 24 and how it somehow has been fufilled since 1914.. apart from the fact i honestly don't think i can find a jehovah's witness who will actually understand the question at hand enough to answer the points therein, i'm to the point where i don't know if jehovah's witnesses even understand their own teachings.

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  No need for 607 or 1914, 1919, 18whaever .... its all lies. Unless, one is dumb enough to believe that Jesus is ruling "invisibly" which runs absolutely contradictory to his own words about his return in the Bible ... and it became okay to practice "divination" (astrology). [JC doesn't take his place until AFTER the big A, according to the Bible.]

  "19 goobly gook" is an absolute LIE which is why no one can reasonably explain it. Its the cry, "See, Christ is here!", that everyone was warned about.

  If Christ were ruling "invisibly" he's doing a really shitty job. I recall his reign was supposed to usher in peace and happiness. Where's it at?

  All that numerical astrology mumbo jumbo was simply to say that Jesus picked the WT leaders in 1919. That's their sole claim to fame.

  They needed to make up all the other stuff to match their principle claim to fame.
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  Weird "end of world" convention advert left in my door yesterday.

  by JWoods in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it is a single 8.5 x 11 color page that opens with this drivel: how can you survive the end of the world?

  --- you are warmly invited to come and listen to the answer.... there is a typical watchtower picture of zombie-like survivors coming out of a dark armageddon storm cloud with lightning and thunder, and walking into a spring field of sunshine and flowers.. on the back is quoted mark 13:37 - "keep on the watch".

  (said near 2000 years ago, but continuing on) - four bulletins: stay awake as christian families / know that the end is near / imitate jesus' example of watchfulness / keep in expectation, watching for jehovah's day.. at the bottom is a generic invitation to mail in what is a little coupon for a bible study to the local branch office (no local contact information is given) with entries for such places as trinidad/tobago, ghana, nigeria, curacao, etc.

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  All of them say to "keep watch with prayer".

  Luke says:
  21: 36 But keep watch at all times with prayer, that you may be strong enough to come through all these things and take your place before the Son of man.

  Think I'll stay with Jesus' words. [JW fearmongering is contradictory.]