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  jw.org cart days numbered?

  by jookbeard in

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  reading a report of an elder in a friends cong has been hiding and spying on the pioneers who seem to have a practise of dumping the cart and finding a local coffee shop, i've noticed that they do this in my local high street as well but this week they seemed to be all huddled around the cart, they've clearly been warned, a vast percentage of the time i see they seem to be more interested in fiddling with their mobile phones and gossiping, is just seems these carts are a means for the pioneers to turn in "easy time" i wonder what sort of figures show how much literature is being taken by the public?

  i bet its very minimal.

  naturally the gb would say they are a phenomenal success , we clearly know they are not.

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  They should keep them and allow only the elderly & infirm to man them.
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  Are Jehovah's Witnesses ever "good enough", must they remain anxious and fragile for fear they will not be saved by their works?

  by Trailer Park Pioneer in

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  as a jehovah's witness you know you can never do enough without hearing stories of another witness doing twice what your doing and living off half the money your living on because they give all their time and money to the watchtower.

  this is totally bunk, reading romans 7:21-24 paul knew his condition was hopeless without the free gift from god.

  paul put all his emphasis on jesus christ, not some self-appointed apostles whose proof offered up is over 150 years of failed prophecy!

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  @Vidiot ... That's because no one gets any grace in JWism except the 144k, 'member?
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  Are Jehovah's Witnesses ever "good enough", must they remain anxious and fragile for fear they will not be saved by their works?

  by Trailer Park Pioneer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as a jehovah's witness you know you can never do enough without hearing stories of another witness doing twice what your doing and living off half the money your living on because they give all their time and money to the watchtower.

  this is totally bunk, reading romans 7:21-24 paul knew his condition was hopeless without the free gift from god.

  paul put all his emphasis on jesus christ, not some self-appointed apostles whose proof offered up is over 150 years of failed prophecy!

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  No. Only through the almighty time slips shall they have a chance to survive Armegeddon. For the time slip = level of spirituality and love.

  How absolutely sad such dealings in frivolity.
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  What is the basis for authority for the governing body?

  by Half banana in

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  a word to jehovahs witnesses: what is the basis for the authority the seven members of the governing body can claim in controlling the lives of eight million followers?

  the organisation they represent has never got one useful piece of information correct in one hundred and thirty five years... so why should they be believed?.

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  Pretty much because they said so. I don't pay any attention to them personally. It's kinda creepy the way they are worshipped by JWs and how they place themselves in Christ's role as mediator.( Likely why Jesus is rarely mentioned by JWs and completely "skipped over".)
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  What Doctrines or JW Views Did You Not Find Too Believable?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  the thought that a loving creator would violently destroy anyone not belonging to the jehovah's witness religion including billions of babies seemed just not right.. the fact that you could recieve some "acceptable" blood components but could not donate those same lifesaving yourself seemed strange.

  you could recieve a blood fraction but you couldn't give it.. any others you can think of?

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  That Christ came back "invisibly"....

  The whole "love/brotherhood" thing.

  The 144k and the other sheep insanity. How is one supposed to eat with he patriarchs in the Kingdom of Heaven if they're supposed to come back and live in LA?
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  They just mentioned Jehovah's Witnesses as fastest growing denomination on ABC World News

  by StoneWall in

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  was watching abc world news and they showed the religions/denominations with most increase and those that are experiencing decreases.. the j.w.

  's was number 1 on increase while most of the larger main stream churches where losing members.. they have already posted a link on the news website...will post it in just a few..

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  You know if I start a church with a membership of 10 and next year add 4 more peeps ; I'll have a 40% increase and then my group would be the fastest growing.
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  A Lurker taking a step out of the shadows

  by AlmightyDog in

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  2. friends

  i have been lurking on this site and others for a couple of years now, and i feel it is time to step out and say "hello!

  " when i first began investigating my beliefs, it was innocent enough.

  i had been reading an article on scientology, thinking; "wow, these people are just plain nuts!!!

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  Hi there and welcome!

  I won't give you any advice, because frankly, I don't believe there is any to give. Each situation is different and some are worse than others. Your wife, just as we were, is like a junkie. No amount of hinting, nudging etc. will change her mind. Like a junkie, something has to click within her in order for her to reflect on her position. If she's not ready for that yet, you won't be able to make her be ready ... push too hard or too soon, she'll hit the pipe harder. The KH & JW is her 'comfort' her 'be all-end all'.

  Its soooo like being a drug addict. One will get help only when one is ready.

  You keep on doing what you are doing. Read, check into things, etc.
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  The new Kingdumb maladies

  by WTWizard in

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  i wonder if anyone actually enjoys them.

  i have heard scattered reports about how a few actually enjoyed at least a few of the older songs (back when there were 225 of them).

  but i have heard nothing but reports of the new songs being impossible to properly sing, very poorly written or performed, or downright blasphemous and promoting blatant idolatry.

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  Thel music has no "religious" feel to it, so I'm not certain why they keep using such boring and uninspiring emotionless tunes which due nothing but prepare one for boring uninspiring emotionless lectures.
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  What if WBTS is right?

  by african GB Member in

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  2. experiences

  people, please don't be angry at me, but do you sometimes ask yourselves this question?

  i do..

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  Lieu

  Um, no.
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  Ridiculous Comment By a Super JW

  by mentallyfree31 in

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  2. friends

  a few years back, before i had any doubts and when i was a hardcore jw, i remember a super-pioneer-jw sister was conversing with me.

  i made the comment about some of my friends at work (all non-witnesses).

  she stops me mid sentence and says "friends?

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  Lieu

  Yet, the experience of others proves

  And just who are these "others" and exactly what are their "experiences" that "prove" something?

  Those articles remind me of the Pharasies having a fit over Jesus hanging out with that sinfully wild-n-crazy tax collector. For shame!