Posts by Lieu

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The Seven - Do they lead God's Congregation?

by TakeOffTheCrown in

there are seven men who proclaim to be the faithful and discreet slave.

but, are they?

Lieu

DD, exactly why they made up two groups using little flock (Jews) and great crowd (Gentiles) incorrectly for nefarious purposes. No different from a clergy-laity.

Nitwits claiming to be sole representatives of God; placing themselves above the Apostles and equal to Christ. Vanity! Madness! Pfffft! At least the Pope only claims to rep Peter.

Let the GB tend your sheep for a year. You'll return and find half of them missing, a high number neglected, with only a few fatty rams .... and the GB will be blaming the sheep.

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How far will they go?

by careful in

i've been drawing back lately and looking at the big picture going on in the org, somewhat like slimboyfat has also been doing, but i am wondering about different possibilities.

so the current gb has modernized recently in various ways.

they have done a strong and sudden about-face regarding the electronic world, from viewing the whole thing suspiciously and condemning bros. use tablets from the platform to suddenly embracing them and causing the r&f to do so to such a degree that old ones are spending hundreds of dollars to buy devices that they have no clue how to use; they have heavily embraced this media for their message, very much like the churches have been doing for years, especially with their jw broadcasting and their caleb and sophia animations.

Lieu

Always wondered about facial hair restrictions. Here we have westerners practicing a Middle Eastern religion telling people to shave. Um, no. Middle Easterners don't shave their beards off and it's THEIR ancestors religion. Trim and neat should be the only requirement.

Also, get rid of jackets and stockings in 85+ degree heat. It's beyond stupid. No one in Africa or the Caribbean/Tropical regions wears that crap in FS.

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Don't know what to do

by looter in

jw
friends

i'm in a crazy situation.

about a year ago, i was going to get baptized.

it was all planned and arranged until ttatt was learned.

Lieu

No. Don't get baptized. It isn't into Christ, it's into a man made corporation (a contract of sorts) ... and they tell you so. It's used by JWs an initiation not a baptism.

Water baptism is simply meant to show repentance for sins, not to join a group.

No one went to John to join some group.

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Why I like the Mormons and why they are so much nicer then the JWs.

by new boy in

jw
friends

i never really knew any until recently.

as a witness we all thought they were weird.

but the two faiths are a lot alike, except the mormons are really so much nicer than the jws!.

Lieu

They don't bother me. However, there are no magic clothes. That's ridiculous. Also, Angelic creatures have no business using ancient Egyptian for English speakers. That's also ridiculous.

The discoveries in Egypt during Smith and Russell's time were all the rage in those days. It was new, it was exciting. It was a European obsession. That's why we see so much silliness with Egypt during those years.

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Reading the book of Enoch found some gems.

by Crazyguy in

first off the book of enoch or at least some of it's writings we're found among the dead sea scrolls.

this to me proves that this book was as important to the jews back then as any other.

in the book a few things i noticed.

Lieu

Nice maps, thanks!

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Reading the book of Enoch found some gems.

by Crazyguy in

first off the book of enoch or at least some of it's writings we're found among the dead sea scrolls.

this to me proves that this book was as important to the jews back then as any other.

in the book a few things i noticed.

Lieu

These missing or omitted texts make me wonder.

1. At the writing of revelation, Christians are on the run AWAY from Roman territories. The 7 congregations mentioned are all in what's now Turkey.

2. How the hell does the supposed 'Bishops' all end up waltzing around Rome itself to vote on what's going to be Bible canon, while everyone is still on the run???

3. Missing texts are missing because those who chose had no business choosing. It seems they were neither Jews nor Christians.

Another good book mentioned in a question to Jesus is Tobit. (The lady with the 7 husbands). Without basic knowledge of it, you have no idea why they pose such a question.

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Reading the book of Enoch found some gems.

by Crazyguy in

first off the book of enoch or at least some of it's writings we're found among the dead sea scrolls.

this to me proves that this book was as important to the jews back then as any other.

in the book a few things i noticed.

Lieu

Ancient peoples had similar beliefs because it's been proven that humans spread out from one main region. Of course, they simply took those beliefs with them as they spread out ... no matter the language, it doesn't make one groups beliefs any older than another. The beginning of it is the same.

What's different is which group developed script to write it down first.

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I gave the elders some ammo to use

by atacrossroads in

jw
friends

i was having dinner at olive garden with my cousin who was disfellowshipped for apostacy.

a holier than thou pioneer couple saw us.

if that was not enough i saw her take a picture of me with my cousin.

Lieu

Wow! Congrats!!!

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Is the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses really an inferior form of Christianity?

by nicolaou in

seems to be quite a few posters recently pulling down the beliefs of jw's as not biblical or truly christian.

maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong, i really don't care.. in some important ways though mainstream christians often behave better than jehovah's witnesses; most don't practice shunning or impose lethal medical prohibitions on their members.

many are far more tolerant of the lgbt community and a few even make the awkward attempt to square the fact of evolution with their faith.. please note that i'm saying some, not all.. so i suppose it's fair to say that differing forms of christianity can be better or worse for individuals, families and the wider community.

Lieu

Inferior ... yes. As a form of Christianity. The lack of true charity towards other people, the lack of true brotherly love, shunning those who have not sinned against them, asking those of lesser means for money, etc. The big kicker is professing to be Christian while wholeheartedly sidelining Christ & replacing him with unworthy men.

I would say, JWs are followers of Saul, rather than Christ. Far too Mosaic Code to be Christian. They figuratively hunt and "kill" those of their brethren who may disagree. So, yes, that makes them inferior.

Also, they only have one celebration which is anything but a celebration. It's a depressing funeral ceremony (not a joyful wake/memorial).

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Evolution is a Fact #1 - Protein Functional Redundancy

by cofty in

i intend for this to be one of a series of bite-sized ops on the evidence for evolution.. introduction to dna genes are sequences of dna made up of words (codons) each of which are three letters (bases) long.

there are only four letters in the genetic alphabet (acg&t) each word or codon is the recipe for one amino acid.

there are 20 different amino acids in living organisms.

Lieu

I don't believe humans evolved from animals. Why? Because animals don't destroy their environment, animals aren't greedy, nor do they or smoke crack then go knock over a liquor store. Humans are worse than animals. Humans are more akin to viruses and locusts then animals.