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  Who is your favourite thinker?

  by The Rebel in

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  having recently read orwells 1984, i was impressed with how he understood that both politicians and people abuse language.

  this further confirmed to me how the w.t had deceived me by using words to distort reality.

  the book 1984, also contains many other great thoughts of george orwell.. of course there have been many other great thinkers, buddah, darwin, freud, einstein and marx come to mind.

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  Lieu

  The person who came up with the idea for socks or some item that has improved life around the world. That's great thinking.

  Solely opining about everything is useless. Talk is cheap ... do.
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  How far will they go?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been drawing back lately and looking at the big picture going on in the org, somewhat like slimboyfat has also been doing, but i am wondering about different possibilities.

  so the current gb has modernized recently in various ways.

  they have done a strong and sudden about-face regarding the electronic world, from viewing the whole thing suspiciously and condemning bros. use tablets from the platform to suddenly embracing them and causing the r&f to do so to such a degree that old ones are spending hundreds of dollars to buy devices that they have no clue how to use; they have heavily embraced this media for their message, very much like the churches have been doing for years, especially with their jw broadcasting and their caleb and sophia animations.

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  Being conservative in habits doesn't mean being a complete bore.

  I seriously doubt all those festivals and celebrations in the Bible were solemn quiet boring occasions.

  JWs would just die if a GB member pulled a David.
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  I hope A JW win Powerball

  by ShirleyW in

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  if so, they probably won't come forward for a while, then when they do, they'll probably be dragged into the back room for a talk about how the dubs don't gamble, then the winner says he'll donate some, and of course all will be forgiven, then the dub may finally see the hypocrisy of the cult and denounce them on national tv as they hold up that big giant check for all to see!

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  Lieu

  Our State allows one to opt out of the show n tell. We can remain anonymous.
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  How far will they go?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been drawing back lately and looking at the big picture going on in the org, somewhat like slimboyfat has also been doing, but i am wondering about different possibilities.

  so the current gb has modernized recently in various ways.

  they have done a strong and sudden about-face regarding the electronic world, from viewing the whole thing suspiciously and condemning bros. use tablets from the platform to suddenly embracing them and causing the r&f to do so to such a degree that old ones are spending hundreds of dollars to buy devices that they have no clue how to use; they have heavily embraced this media for their message, very much like the churches have been doing for years, especially with their jw broadcasting and their caleb and sophia animations.

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  Lieu

  I think they'll keep elders. They're not paid reps. (Free management)
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  To me this seams like more than a coincidence ...

  by Greybeard in

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  sorry if this has been discussed before.... for a few days now, this question has been going through my mind.

  what was the date the governing body took the sole role of the faithful and discreet slave and how close was it to the end of the mayan calendar in december of 2012?

  i looked it up on jwfactes.com and sure enough, checkout the date on this article:.

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  Easy. The Maya built pyramids. The Egyptians built pyramids. Top JW dogs have always been fascinated with pyramids. They're triangle freaks trying to calculate the "rapture".

  You would think with there being 4 earth elements, they'd be into squares. Go figure.

  With their love of all things triangular, I wouldn't put it past the GB to think Maya calculations were "special". After all the Maya were excellent mathematicians and astronomers. (Can't imagine who still uses a 365 day calendar 500 yrs after contact ...)

  Oh, and from the Yucatan southward, they still speak Itzil and Itza. Of course, if the GB or any one else wanted to know what the calendar meant, they could have simply flown to Guatemala, stood on a street, and asked one of the many millions of Maya walking around ... or called on a cell phone.
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  The Seven - Do they lead God's Congregation?

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

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  there are seven men who proclaim to be the faithful and discreet slave.

  but, are they?

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  DD, exactly why they made up two groups using little flock (Jews) and great crowd (Gentiles) incorrectly for nefarious purposes. No different from a clergy-laity.

  Nitwits claiming to be sole representatives of God; placing themselves above the Apostles and equal to Christ. Vanity! Madness! Pfffft! At least the Pope only claims to rep Peter.

  Let the GB tend your sheep for a year. You'll return and find half of them missing, a high number neglected, with only a few fatty rams .... and the GB will be blaming the sheep.
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  How far will they go?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been drawing back lately and looking at the big picture going on in the org, somewhat like slimboyfat has also been doing, but i am wondering about different possibilities.

  so the current gb has modernized recently in various ways.

  they have done a strong and sudden about-face regarding the electronic world, from viewing the whole thing suspiciously and condemning bros. use tablets from the platform to suddenly embracing them and causing the r&f to do so to such a degree that old ones are spending hundreds of dollars to buy devices that they have no clue how to use; they have heavily embraced this media for their message, very much like the churches have been doing for years, especially with their jw broadcasting and their caleb and sophia animations.

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  Always wondered about facial hair restrictions. Here we have westerners practicing a Middle Eastern religion telling people to shave. Um, no. Middle Easterners don't shave their beards off and it's THEIR ancestors religion. Trim and neat should be the only requirement.

  Also, get rid of jackets and stockings in 85+ degree heat. It's beyond stupid. No one in Africa or the Caribbean/Tropical regions wears that crap in FS.
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  Don't know what to do

  by looter in

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  i'm in a crazy situation.

  about a year ago, i was going to get baptized.

  it was all planned and arranged until ttatt was learned.

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  No. Don't get baptized. It isn't into Christ, it's into a man made corporation (a contract of sorts) ... and they tell you so. It's used by JWs an initiation not a baptism.

  Water baptism is simply meant to show repentance for sins, not to join a group.

  No one went to John to join some group.
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  Why I like the Mormons and why they are so much nicer then the JWs.

  by new boy in

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  2. friends

  i never really knew any until recently.

  as a witness we all thought they were weird.

  but the two faiths are a lot alike, except the mormons are really so much nicer than the jws!.

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  Lieu

  They don't bother me. However, there are no magic clothes. That's ridiculous. Also, Angelic creatures have no business using ancient Egyptian for English speakers. That's also ridiculous.

  The discoveries in Egypt during Smith and Russell's time were all the rage in those days. It was new, it was exciting. It was a European obsession. That's why we see so much silliness with Egypt during those years.
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  Reading the book of Enoch found some gems.

  by Crazyguy in

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  2. bible

  first off the book of enoch or at least some of it's writings we're found among the dead sea scrolls.

  this to me proves that this book was as important to the jews back then as any other.

  in the book a few things i noticed.

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  Lieu

  Nice maps, thanks!