it never ceases to amaze me that your personal friends have no clue what it is like to have been one.
i was speaking with a friend the other day about having been a jw.
she said, oh i have a dear friend of 30 years who is one and she is so nice!
I explain it as KGB meets SS seasoned with a heap of Joan Crawford and a dash of Napoleon.
Rules, rules, secret meetings, coded speech, more rules, and spies telling if you break the rules. Also looting. Constant mental abuse, sometimes physical. Do more! And lastly, some are exiled.
Crazyguy, try your local synagogue. They could probably point you in the right direction. I would think that the Jewish community in Iran possess some of the oldest copies ..... but we may blow them up in an attack one day.
a special message to her daughter, ann marie if you are watching this site.
your mother is eighty-eight now and her memory is going fast.
please call her, ann marie.
Her daughter is programmed by irrelevant men to not care about the woman that carried and gave birth to her. If the conversation is not of a religious nature, Ann has an obligation to take care of and speak generally to Grace.
So sad to hear.
Meh, 1914. The supposed year of the rapture. Lest we forget the actual reason JWs had this guess of a mess date in the first place.
Saying you know the time of Christ's (literal or invisible) return is calling Christ a liar. Christ said no one knows that info but the Father. You call Christ a liar, you call Jehovah a liar since it's his words Christ spoke to mankind.
Grace didn't believe it and neither do I. I for one am not going to call God a liar.
Sending my best wishes to Grace.
i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
Formerbrother,
It's 2016. No one needs to go door to door to announce Jesus as Messiah. Lolz!!! Maybe some uncontacted tribes in the Amazon but you aren't allowed to bother them for fear you might sneeze and kill them all.
Also, the Mormons are coming to tell people something completely different from the Bible. Whilst JWs are simply bothering mostly Christians.
Unlike the 70, you can't heal anyone or cast out demons. Actually in Luke 10, he tells them NOT to go from house to house.
i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
Anders Anderson, so true on the mantra. Besides the scripture says "to whom" meaning other than Christ. No clue where JWs got the "where" silliness.
My opinion is , if you wish to be Christian, then simply adhere to Christ's example. You don't need middle men to lead you like a puppet. Unlike the early Christians, you have a compiled volume of the writings to read for yourself.
You can talk to a middle man of your choosing should you have a question.
Christianity isn't supposed to be a burden or slavery to men.
in a separate thread on the very latest figures for the current world wide annual report of jws, discussion turned to how "we'll know decline has really set in.
one of the posters said: .
the figure that interests me most is the number of congregations.
A lot of new Congos here are Latino. I'm wondering if the numbers are going down in LatAm as people migrate to the US. If the "growth" is simply JWs migrating, then it isn't growth; it's displacement.
I also wonder if the migration has something to do with the downward trend in donations coming from Central America.
seems to be quite a few posters recently pulling down the beliefs of jw's as not biblical or truly christian.
maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong, i really don't care.. in some important ways though mainstream christians often behave better than jehovah's witnesses; most don't practice shunning or impose lethal medical prohibitions on their members.
many are far more tolerant of the lgbt community and a few even make the awkward attempt to square the fact of evolution with their faith.. please note that i'm saying some, not all.. so i suppose it's fair to say that differing forms of christianity can be better or worse for individuals, families and the wider community.
having recently read orwells 1984, i was impressed with how he understood that both politicians and people abuse language.
this further confirmed to me how the w.t had deceived me by using words to distort reality.
the book 1984, also contains many other great thoughts of george orwell.. of course there have been many other great thinkers, buddah, darwin, freud, einstein and marx come to mind.
The person who came up with the idea for socks or some item that has improved life around the world. That's great thinking.
Solely opining about everything is useless. Talk is cheap ... do.
i've been drawing back lately and looking at the big picture going on in the org, somewhat like slimboyfat has also been doing, but i am wondering about different possibilities.
so the current gb has modernized recently in various ways.
they have done a strong and sudden about-face regarding the electronic world, from viewing the whole thing suspiciously and condemning bros. use tablets from the platform to suddenly embracing them and causing the r&f to do so to such a degree that old ones are spending hundreds of dollars to buy devices that they have no clue how to use; they have heavily embraced this media for their message, very much like the churches have been doing for years, especially with their jw broadcasting and their caleb and sophia animations.
Being conservative in habits doesn't mean being a complete bore.
I seriously doubt all those festivals and celebrations in the Bible were solemn quiet boring occasions.
JWs would just die if a GB member pulled a David.
