Posts by Lieu

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Misconceptions of the GB

by Larry in

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friends

what was your misconceptions about the gb?

here was one of mine, when folks would ask me why wasn't their any blacks on the gb.

i would say that the blacks weren't educated enough at the time (late 1800's - early 1900's) to govern a worldwide organization.

A misconception:

The GB writes the articles and books put out. They read them all and pray over them before they are put out too.

Since most of the JW file believes this they take whatever is in those pubs as gospel.

Having given themselves the title Ambassadors of Christ, they don't mention the one whom they're representing much. As a matter of fact, they have all but bumped him out of the equation...that darn Memorial is what's keeeping him from JW annihilation.

Satan must be proud.

JW's oogle over the GB the same as Catholics oogle over the Pope. JW structure mirrors that of the CC with semantics in titles being all the rage. Laymen, Priests, Bishops, Cardinals, Pope. --- Publishers, Ministerial Servants, Elders, DOs, COs, and GB.

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Which was scarier... the torture scenario or the Armageddon scenario?

by Gopher in

for those of us who grew up in the jw's, there were a couple of scary scenarios presented, one supposedly to happen before armageddon, and armageddon itself.. before armageddon, all jw's were going to be chased around by worldly nations because they would be the only religion left on earth, satan's system having destroyed "babylon the great" (all religions outside jw's, we were told).

so as part of that, jw's would be persecuted worldwide for being religious and proclaiming the "kingdom".. now -- connect that with the actual persecution that happened to the jw's as documented in the annual "yearbook" and in the pages of the watchtower magazine.

sometimes the details of what happened to jw's when in confinement were quite graphic and frightening.

Lieu

Armageddon was, I guess, the scarier of the two. At least imprisonement, torture, and death meant I didn't have to go to the boring meetings. :)

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Ok, Question: Was there a comment made at a meeting that finally convinced.

by New Castles in

was there a comment made at a meeting that finally convinced you, this is not right?

for me a couple of weeks ago was in the service meeting, they stated that if the children didnt finish their homework because they were studying the bible or at a meeting that teachers should understand that their meetings and study are more important.

i looked at my wife and went "what"??

Lieu

The Watchtower Study article that fully contradicted the previous week's Watchtower study article. I admit I had not been a goodie goodie and pre-read the article or I might have caught it in time to stay in bed. I understood that any ole "brother" writes those articles but--it had me sitting there looking around thinking, "OMG! What on earth am I doing here?" I had suspicions due to the overall JW environment. The taking a verse out of context used to always piss me off as I was one of those folks who would always read the whole bible chapter to see in what context the verse referred. Anyway, that article was the defining point when I knew I had to "roll up outta there".

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With This One Thought, You Become An XJW

by metatron in

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friends

there is one thought, which if spoken , even privately to yourself, instantly.

transforms you into an ex-witness.. it is:.

"what the hell was i thinking?".

Lieu

what-now?, I used to have the strangest thoughts whenever a "friend" talked in happiness about the destruction of mankind. I thought, "It would be good if Jah did not destroy your neighbors. It would be even better if you personally complained about their non-destruction and a shark popped up to immediately bite your head off...like Jonah but with more cenematic drama." Anyway, my one thought was, "WTF???? How did I get in here?"

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Seems to be going OK ... posting limits UP

by Simon in

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i set the limits low while i put the new s.w.

on but it seems to be going ok (phew) so i've raised the limits.. it tells you exactly how many you have when you try to post a new topic or a reply.

Lieu

No worries, Simon. My iBook also came with IE for Mac. I could view this wonderful site but not post. (I was using Safari as my default browser; which is actually still in "Beta" mode. I'm sure Apple will fix this by final release. I've seen a couple of issues with Safari and Java stuff.) This is a nice new look.

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Seems to be going OK ... posting limits UP

by Simon in

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i set the limits low while i put the new s.w.

on but it seems to be going ok (phew) so i've raised the limits.. it tells you exactly how many you have when you try to post a new topic or a reply.

Lieu

Nice, very nice. Doesn't like my Mac browser though.

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Narrow and cramped is the road leading ...

by whyhideit in

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friends

"narrow and cramped is the road leading to life", right?

well with that quote, the witnesses have always justified the fact that they are still god's chosen people, even though they are not that large compared to other worldwide religions.

yet i was wondering something, if smaller is a sign of god's people, then how small is small enough.

Lieu

The WTS is not on the road, last I heard they were in a boat that was 'tacking' in different directions on the open sea.

Did they come to a port yet? i may have missed that. :)

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Were You Depressed Because You Were A Witness?

by minimus in

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friends

it seems that many people here have been greatly depressed because they were or still are jehovah's witnesses.

what about you?

Lieu

Who really is supposed to care what standing one has before man?

Certainly Jesus did not die in good standing before man...screw that!

Worrying about what men think is what drives myriads of JWs to "pick their poison".

What I noticed is that God did not seem to be insatiable, but a whole buch of men using God sure were. So, I ignored them and still do.

Depressed as a JW? Sure, who wouldn't be depressed with such silliness. I felt like I was just a number working in a factory with a broken punch card machine that continuously caused my paycheck to come up short.

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Loyalty to who or what?

by ozziepost in

a question in the current written review asserts that "the loyalty that marks jehovah's organisation transcends every human relationship, such as that of close flesh-and-blood relatives.

" - question 35 .

note that loyalty that "transcends every human relationship" is not to god, but to the 'organisation'.

Lieu

Loyalty begets loyalty.

Loyalty to Christ and to God....no one else when it comes to matters of faith.

As Paul commented on the folks saying they were followers of certain men, "who is Paul, Apollos, ..."? Certainly, Paul did not die for us and neither did anybody in Brooklyn. So, I'll go along with Paul's comments and say Christ is my leader, I belong to Christ not the WBTS.

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What don't you miss about meetings?

by kwijibo in

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i don't miss being spoken to like i was someones best friend when i know they wouldn't pee on me if i was on fire.. i don't miss always standing on my own and having no one come and talk to me.. i don't miss having people talk around me about the great time they had at the latest sport/barbecue/dinner get-together which i wasn't invited to because i'm not spiritual enough.. i don't miss not having friends in the truth or out of the truth because i shouldn't mix with wordly people.. i don't miss being so bored for all those hours a week.. i don't miss all the false smiles people give me when i look at them at the hall and the way they look away when i walk past them at the shopping center.. .................. anyone got anymore?

Lieu

I don't miss feeling like a slave of men.

I don't miss never having a real Bible discussion.

I don't miss having questions which I could not ask.

I don't miss the "phonies" during the CO's visit.

I don't miss the boring songs played by tape in an octave that no human being could sing.

I don't miss people who could not have a conversation about an everyday topic.

I don't miss people who never say, "my thoughts are", but say, "well the WT says".

I don't miss elders, MS, who talk AT you and not TO you.

I don't miss the same drivel from the platform, day in and day out.

I guess I don't miss anything.