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  How dishonest was the Apostle Paul?

  by opusdei1972 in

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  may be some of you will be shocked by this question.

  however, when i was studying the bible with critical eyes i detected that paul ( or saul of tarsus) misquoted the hebrew bible in order to get false support for his arguments.

  of course, this tricky kind of use of the "scriptures" was not only used by him, but others, like the author of the gospel of matthew got unsupported doctrines misquoting verses.

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  Lieu

  No one can actually follow Torah. Why, because there's no Temple, no Arc, and no records of who may be a Levite (for the High Priest) ... and mostly because no one has any cattle & PETA.

  As for Paul, even Peter commented that he wrote stuff which was hard to understand. Personally, I think the WT fails in its interpretations because

  1- They understand nothing about the ancient Hellenistic world and it's various areas

  2- No understanding of ancient Greek and word usage

  3- Lack knowledge of ancient Hebrew parables/stories. Ie. the lady with the 7 husband trick question. [Apparently bad angel Azazel was in love with her & kept killing her husbands]

  4- They read the writings of Middle Eastern peoples from a purely Western viewpoint (And a US one at that).

  5- Sometimes "letters" just weren't meant for everyone everywhere. That's why they are letters and not "scrolls" (aka scripture). Personal correspondence.

  6- The Apostles in Jerusalem were pondering scrolls, they weren't concerned with some private letter to Timothy (which Paul likely did not write).
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  Daughter of Elder Reinstated Within Months!

  by disillusioned 2 in

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  2. friends

  a young sister in my husband's congregation who is the daughter of an elder has been reinstated in a matter of months.

  whereas another sister in the same congregation has been disfellowshipped now for nearly two years!.

  seems like it's who you know..

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  Lieu

  That's normal at the Animal Farm. Some are considered more equal than others. 😈
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  Reserve currencies and China.

  by zeb in

  1. social
  2. current

  in october 2015 there will be a huge move likely to include china into the worlds "reserve currencies".. this is likely to see a run on the us dollar and trading that is done in us dollars.. i am not predicting gloom but it will impact on all of us and perhaps may be behind the obsession of the wt to stack up as much real estate and the green stuff as they can..

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  IF the dollar flushes, a mountain of it won't be worth a roll of toilet paper. It becomes completely worthless as a currency.
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  Index of acronyms : help for new forumers

  by Mary J Blige in

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  2. beliefs

  am finding a whole lot of acronyms that are really foreign to me and i now have an appreciation for what cult language sounds like to non-culters.

  wondering please if you can post your definitions so i can get up to speed.

  otherwise, as an indoctrinated ex-culter, i am inclined to create my own new light and swiftly it will be gospel.

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  The COBE is the old PO, eh?
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  The lion king mufasa in today's WT?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has no one else seen this illustration in today's watchtower?

  i don't know how to post it on here perhaps someone will help?.

  i swear its straight out of the lion king, the scene were scar throws mufasa into the stampede "long live the king" that scene.. i wonder how many jw kids will be picking up on this today?

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  Angels wear clothes and have beards?
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  Statement in today's WT

  by stillin in

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  2. bible

  paragraph 14.

  "the majority if unmarried youths who lose their virginity say that they regret what they did.".

  where do they get this stuff?.

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  Lieu

  Huh? What they did or with whom they did it?

  And I want to see a valid poll.
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  JW Org Flags at R.C.

  by ToesUp in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  photo was posted on jw-archive.

  j.w.org flags flying at the 2015 r.c.

  in fribourg, switzerland..

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  Lieu

  Blondie, I never asked, just stare. She's Internet illiterate to boot.
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  Bible History

  by bitsnbobs in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi all,i left the org in the late 90s.

  not because of beliefs or the 1914/generation fiasco.

  just thoughtlessness, hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance.

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  Lieu

  Lorenzo, me thinks you have that reversed.

  It's the woman's seed that crushes the head while the serpent's seed goes after the heels. The woman is not Satan, nor an analogy of him.

  He's talking to "the serpent" in verse 14, 15, (ie "thy & thou").

  Genesis 3:13-15 KJVS

  And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

  [14] And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: [15] And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
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  JW Org Flags at R.C.

  by ToesUp in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  photo was posted on jw-archive.

  j.w.org flags flying at the 2015 r.c.

  in fribourg, switzerland..

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  Lieu

  Wow! Just wow! And I thought my mother's rather large JW.Org button shaped coat pin was weird. (Ps. She wears it everywhere)
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  Most brain dead sit com of all time

  by zeb in

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  2. entertainment

  ok..before you start no i don't watch them but my family have a never ending need to watch "how i met your mother" and endless repeats of "friends" .

  canned laughter, one liners with pause so those of lesser brain can catch the 'humour'.

  i have to put up with the sound track.. thank god for the abc classic fm-radio.

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  The only modern one I like is The King of Queens. The rest have been and are garbage.