Posts by Lieu
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New Congregation Position Soon? ELDERESS?
by 7Starz ini just listened to most of geoffrey jackson's royal commission testimony and i have to say i really enjoyed the multiple times he had to state he would get back to them and would research their questions.. the royal commission was asking if policy could be changed to have women serve on a committee to decide the case and then that bodies decision be brought to the elders to decide whether to show mercy or to disfellowship and individual.
three times the judge had to ask mr. jackson to answer his question.. it was amazing how jackson could not find a scripture to show his honor that women were prohibited to serve as elders.
he could only support that men are appointed as elders.. hmm... i've never been a member of the governing body with all their years of so called spiritual training, but even i remember deborah the prophetess, when the judge asked jackson if women could serve as a judge.. i was so hoping that the judge or mr. stewart would refer to deborah.
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Lieu
They'd be worse than the men at the onset because they'll be trying to prove they're just as stringent. Besides elders wives are the biggest gossip mongering trouble causers in most Congs. You would need rotation among all the female members for something like that to work. Or else you will have just created another small group of power abusing individuals. -
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Advice on Waiting for Jehovah
by Anon_SA1 inhi guys, .
in discussions with a current jw, they told me that have big concerns with regards to the 607 bce date, but they are waiting on jehovah for refining.
any suggestions on questions to pose to them based on their feedback?.
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Lieu
They, like Adam & Eve, just gotta have that fruit which doesn't belong to them. (aka "stealing") -
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Human rights issue
by possum inhi, i am possum and have been posting for a short time just thought i would introduce myself with much trepidation.
i am a third generation ex witness.
grandparents originally lured into cult in 1920 after the death of a precious child.
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Lieu
Welcome! Keep going towards the light. You've been in darkness long enough. -
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Is the two-witness rule really unreasonable?
by stillin ini'm picturing a situation in which a savvy 12 year old doesn't like the house rules that mom's new husband has put into place.
or something along that line.
i can certainly agree that protection of children is paramount, but who protects the real victim in those cases?
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Lieu
I don't know of any rapists or child molesters who waited around to have an audience and/or witnesses.
I think it's pure STUPIDITY in these circumstances.
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Is the two-witness rule really unreasonable?
by stillin ini'm picturing a situation in which a savvy 12 year old doesn't like the house rules that mom's new husband has put into place.
or something along that line.
i can certainly agree that protection of children is paramount, but who protects the real victim in those cases?
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Today it is as unreasonable as marrying your rapist. No ancient Hebrews around here following Mosaic Laws ... Besides ole Jezzy had two witnesses, and of course they were both liars. So, you know.
It's best to go straight to the police and let the law (forensics, dna, etc) do its job. Don't have your children farting around with religious types for comfort. They can read you scriptures AFTER the STD exams and charges are filed.
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Caeser to caeser
by poopie inroyal commission us caeser so wt must comply with those rules they tell rank an file to follow.
there was an article why report what is bad this articled required christians to become arm of the state so here we are at crossroads the suspence is great who will win ?
will jc be put out of business since there is no scriptual basis for 3 men to judge another human in christian cong .
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They'll likely continue doing what they want until a Country takes away their tax status. Then they’ll cry persecution because they constantly fail to do what's right on their own. -
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Baiting Dubs for fun and amusement
by TerryWalstrom injw: "wha-a-a-t?
mormon: "okay.
other jw: "that's just .
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Exactly Doc!
Knowing how to debate or refute Mormons means you'd have to know something about them. JWS are 'highly discouraged' from delving into other religious sects or other religions. Or their own past/beginning for that matter.
Just spew whatever.
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How much was Christ's ransom sacrifice? Equal to Adam?
by jonathan dough inhow much was the ransom?
gods justice did not require an exact equivalent man-for-man sacrifice between the first adam and jesus, the second adam.
gods gift required more.
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Lieu
Jesus or the Messiah was the ultimate "repurchaser", so to speak. With his blood buying back mankind from sin. No amount of goat, sheep, pigeon, or ram's blood would equal a human. There ya go.
Besides, Jesus was not saddled with sin. Why? No human sperm. Remember, it's because of a man sin entered into the world, not because of a woman.
(Even though Adam's lady part Eve was complicit in the whole lying-thievery episode.)
Also, there's no just the act of Adam. It's everyone that came in history through his, well, boyz. His unborn progeny. Paul? rattled on about Abraham giving (when giving Melchezideck a tenth of everything he had) while the Levites gave too because they were considered to be inside Abraham at the time. That line of thinking pretty much covers everyone.
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Why does that blue room theme remind me of Palpatine's chamber? Is that round metallic thing one of those spaceship transporters like in the movie Stargate? -
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Russell's sources for his ideas - a diagram of what Apocalypse Delayed Ch. 1
by ILoveTTATT2 inaccording to apocalypse delayed, russell got many of his ideas from a conference called albury park.. .
here are the sources of his ideas for eschatology:.
and lastly, here are the sources for the ideas that jw's claim make them "the truth": rejection of the trinity, hell, and the inmortal soul..
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Lieu
Oh the beards!!!! I wonder if any are wearing tight pants?