well, well, that was quite a heartfelt welcome on this site four days ago.
thank you all for the encouraging replies.
one of them was this one from magnum: "hey now, don't just pop your head in and disappear.
I think it's nice to have someone you can express a concern to without getting some ascenine speech. Venting is healthy.
It's a shame so many fear men more than God and say nothing about their concerns. Good thing the Gentile Christians opened their mouths or all males would be getting snipped to this day.
well, well, that was quite a heartfelt welcome on this site four days ago.
thank you all for the encouraging replies.
one of them was this one from magnum: "hey now, don't just pop your head in and disappear.
Brokethechains, welcome.
Interesting read about Losch. To be expected actually. No concern for the time, effort, or money spent to host him in a home or fix a meal for his benefit. Kept men are use to dismissing the efforts of those considered lessers.
'Not his job to worry about those needs', eh? Well, that too is to be expected. The locals know his name, he doesn't care to know theirs. Just kinda stepped to the other side of the road leaving the locals to bleed out.
Only a true servant called by the Spirit would give a rats ass about the flock entrusted to him. A true servant would know unequivocally that IT IS his JOB to help care for the needs of his brothers.
Some of these men are absolute black hearts. Wait on Jehovah, yes? That's what I say every time they ask for money.
it never ceases to amaze me that your personal friends have no clue what it is like to have been one.
i was speaking with a friend the other day about having been a jw.
she said, oh i have a dear friend of 30 years who is one and she is so nice!
I explain it as KGB meets SS seasoned with a heap of Joan Crawford and a dash of Napoleon.
Rules, rules, secret meetings, coded speech, more rules, and spies telling if you break the rules. Also looting. Constant mental abuse, sometimes physical. Do more! And lastly, some are exiled.
Crazyguy, try your local synagogue. They could probably point you in the right direction. I would think that the Jewish community in Iran possess some of the oldest copies ..... but we may blow them up in an attack one day.
a special message to her daughter, ann marie if you are watching this site.
your mother is eighty-eight now and her memory is going fast.
please call her, ann marie.
Her daughter is programmed by irrelevant men to not care about the woman that carried and gave birth to her. If the conversation is not of a religious nature, Ann has an obligation to take care of and speak generally to Grace.
So sad to hear.
Meh, 1914. The supposed year of the rapture. Lest we forget the actual reason JWs had this guess of a mess date in the first place.
Saying you know the time of Christ's (literal or invisible) return is calling Christ a liar. Christ said no one knows that info but the Father. You call Christ a liar, you call Jehovah a liar since it's his words Christ spoke to mankind.
Grace didn't believe it and neither do I. I for one am not going to call God a liar.
Sending my best wishes to Grace.
i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
Formerbrother,
It's 2016. No one needs to go door to door to announce Jesus as Messiah. Lolz!!! Maybe some uncontacted tribes in the Amazon but you aren't allowed to bother them for fear you might sneeze and kill them all.
Also, the Mormons are coming to tell people something completely different from the Bible. Whilst JWs are simply bothering mostly Christians.
Unlike the 70, you can't heal anyone or cast out demons. Actually in Luke 10, he tells them NOT to go from house to house.
i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
Anders Anderson, so true on the mantra. Besides the scripture says "to whom" meaning other than Christ. No clue where JWs got the "where" silliness.
My opinion is , if you wish to be Christian, then simply adhere to Christ's example. You don't need middle men to lead you like a puppet. Unlike the early Christians, you have a compiled volume of the writings to read for yourself.
You can talk to a middle man of your choosing should you have a question.
Christianity isn't supposed to be a burden or slavery to men.
in a separate thread on the very latest figures for the current world wide annual report of jws, discussion turned to how "we'll know decline has really set in.
one of the posters said: .
the figure that interests me most is the number of congregations.
A lot of new Congos here are Latino. I'm wondering if the numbers are going down in LatAm as people migrate to the US. If the "growth" is simply JWs migrating, then it isn't growth; it's displacement.
I also wonder if the migration has something to do with the downward trend in donations coming from Central America.
seems to be quite a few posters recently pulling down the beliefs of jw's as not biblical or truly christian.
maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong, i really don't care.. in some important ways though mainstream christians often behave better than jehovah's witnesses; most don't practice shunning or impose lethal medical prohibitions on their members.
many are far more tolerant of the lgbt community and a few even make the awkward attempt to square the fact of evolution with their faith.. please note that i'm saying some, not all.. so i suppose it's fair to say that differing forms of christianity can be better or worse for individuals, families and the wider community.
