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  "Evidently" the New Watchtower Propoganda Buzzword is "Clearly"

  by LostGeneration in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we have seen hundreds of examples of where the watchtower uses the word "evidently" to make their doctrinal point.

  (page 9, para 6).

  (page 19 para 5).

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  Joepublisher1

  "Like 00DAD, I am ashamed I ever believed this pack of lies. I can only excuse myself by saying I was young and the people who studied with me were people for whom I had deep love and who themselves strongly believed all of this. For more than twenty years I sailed along blissfully ignorant and unaware until 1995 and the November 1 issue of The Watchtower. That was the beginning of my doubts but it took another ten years before I began to accept TTATT. This thread has once again showed me the wisdom of doing so.

  Quendi"

  Oh my goodness... when I read Quendi's statement above I thought to myself, I could have wrote this word-for word! I, too, was somewhat awakened by that 1995 Watchtower on "the generation" change. If you go back to the Live Forever book, you will see some statments that the WTS printed about this that show just how much the WTS taught that it was a certainty [beyond any doubt] that the end would come before the generation of 1914 passed away - I was very faithful to those promises. However, when the WTS [aka Governing Body] changed that teaching, it took the wind out of my sails and I stepped down as a MS. It would take about 10 years later (and a lot of eye-opening reading outside the WTS literature) to conclude what so many exJWs have come to learn: this religion is a fraud and its leaders are NOT who they say they are! I might add that the 1995 change then gave way to me doing research on the 1975 fiasco and it became "evident" to me that the WTS is quilty of mis-leading millions of people around the world - covering over mistakes with a made-up "new light" teaching that would get them off the hook from ever having to apologize for their [many and on-going] mistakes! I found that their use of the word "evidently" to be highly misleading, as in many cases their was little to NO evidence to back up their claims! - they just liked using the word to add force to their statements. Much like they are now using the word, Clearly! Thank you to everyone who is posting this information in hopes it helps other sincere JWs to awaken from this mind-control group!
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  Is the Watchtower shy about repeating their new "generation" teaching?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as i recall in the 1980s talks and watchtower literature, magazines and books were always talking about the "generation" teaching and how it proved armageddon was going to come any day now.. but am i correct in thinking they have only actually mentioned the new "overlapping generations" teaching once or twice in the literature?

  why are they so shy about talking about their great new interpretation?

  it's almost enough to make you suspect they are a embarrassed about it.. mention it once or twice, don't dwell on it, hope everyone just accepts it, and don't bring it up again.

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  Joepublisher1

  Fact: The WTS, nor JWs mention or talk about this so-called new-light [of overlapping generations]. (It's ludicrous and hints at insanity on the part of today's Governing Body!)

  Fact: This new teaching is not supported in Jesus' direct words of warning! - most JWs don't see the scriptural support either.

  Fact: Some JWs still use the old explanation! See proof of this below:

  At a recent meeting, during the school, a sister used the pre-1995 explanation of "the generation" in order to convince the house-holder that time was short. I sat in disbelief at how this sister totally missed the recent [over-lapping] change! - perhaps this is indirect proof that the WTS doesn't mention the [new] generation teaching much anymore. (In a way, I feel bad for most JWs because they have been so mislead by their leaders. The leaders have toyed with their intellect, too. For instance, they have been taught that their leaders are "God's sole channel of communication today", yet they say that 'the annointed have no special knowledge above the other sheep'. What the heck! Doesn't that mean that the whole religion is run only by men, like your or I?)
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  SECRET LETTER of Watchtower Media Changes!

  by TheSnarkyApologist in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here's a letter that has circulated among many ex-watchtowerites!.

  just thought you'd want to know!.

  awake!

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  Joepublisher1

  You know, the flock gets so many conflicting statements from the WTS. (The internet is bad, the internet is good - the end is coming on "insert date", the end isn't coming on "insert date" - the generation means that, no it means this now, etc.) I think many of their members are conflicted. For instance, have you noticed how many young [and even older] JWs are watching the movie: Hunger Games! A film critic [for a newspaper] James. T. Summerhays said this: "Consider skipping Hunger Games". Why? Mr Summerhays pleads:

  "It may not be the very first film whose whole premise is about killing children and that graphically depicts several child killings, but it is the very first one that successfully marketed itself as a family film. And the families are seeing it together in droves. In the name of civility, please consider skipping "The Hunger Games."

  How else do you explain why so many JWs are seeing a film filled with violence - so much so that a film critic is pleading with people to NOT view it.
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  More anti-apostate rhetoric from the Watchtower - are they running scared?

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  yes, the may 15th watchtower is now available for download from jw.org.. the final study article, on page 26, directs another salvo at apostates - and warns witnesses not to try arguing with them on the internet:.

  indeed, we ought to move as far away from wrongdoing as possible and not see how close we can get to it without being overcome by sin.

  for instance, we need to guard against succumbing to apostasy, a sin that would make us unfit to glorify god.

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  Joepublisher1

  This is one reason why the WTS doesn't want its members debating with ex-JWs on-line:

  @JoepublisherNYThe Jehovah's Witnesses were only influenced by God's holy? spirit, not inspired. They've never claimed to be inspired prophets. There's a difference.

• CoolBreeze250 3 hours ago

  @CoolBreeze250Why would God's? Holy Spirit "influence" the leaders to wrong interpretations of scripture?

• JoepublisherNY 3 hours ago

  @JoepublisherNYOnce again,? the leaders aren't inspired prophets.

• CoolBreeze250 3 hours ago

  @CoolBreeze250I didn't use the word "inspired", I used YOUR expression: "influence". Now, can you? please answer the question: "Why would God's Holy Spirit INFLUENCE the leaders to wrong interpretation of scripture?"

• JoepublisherNY 3 hours ago

  @JoepublisherNYI knew what you said. Let me explain it to you this way, and then I'll be done with this topic. Jehovah is using the Governing Body (a.k.a. the faithful and discreet slave) to dispense "food at the proper time." (Mt. 24:45) Therefore, we're to follow their lead despite the fact? that they're imperfect. The brothers had a limited knowledge of the truth years ago, and the light became brighter as time passed. (Pr. 4:18) That's all there is to it.

• CoolBreeze250 2 hours ago

  @CoolBreeze250I? don't see where you address Holy Spirit in your response, despite the fact that I've raised this question several times. Are you implying that the Holy Spirit does not direct the Governing Body in their understanding of scripture?

• JoepublisherNY 1 second ago

Whenever JWs are asked direct questions that expose their belief system, it is ignored like a seasoned politician. I largely blame this on the WTS leaders and their use of propaganda techniques. The flock has been mis-lead, although there's no longer any reason to remain in the dark in this age of the internet. However, I do sympathize with them because I know I was fully duped! (Many JWs are really good people - just mislead.)