Welcome! You've had a tough life so I hope it's a lot better for you now that your mind is free. It goes to show, higher learning certainly makes it easier to identify the nonsense associated with religion but if you have common sense and and inquiring mind, those alone can be as good as any education in calling bullshit when things don't add up. Happy to have your common sense and inquiring mind amongst us!
SecretSlaveClass
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New member
by New Order inhello, i am a new member.
i grew up in the jw religion; however i am not an active jw.
have been visiting this site for about 3 yrs, and have become quite attached to it.
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What death teaches!
by iconoclastic indeath teaches that nothing belongs to us.
no other teachings have been conveyed so clearly, powerfully, and globally.
yet this is the one that is not taken seriously by people in general.
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OMG JW Sea Org
by sherrie11 ini found this picture and i just can't believe it?
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http://www.jw-archive.org/post/130152768378/jw-booth-at-a-book-fair-in-brazil-photo-shared-by#.
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Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
by SecretSlaveClass inif a thread has been made about this i apologize.. if anyone has not seen the latest hbo documentary release, "going clear: scientology and the prison of belief" i cannot recommend highly enough that you watch it.
as the majority of us here are either survivors of or still trapped in a cult ourselves, this documentary will most certainly intrigue you.
it's the most in-depth and extensively researched documentary on scientology ever and features interviews with ex-scientologists who were right at the top until they fell foul of their megalomaniacal, paranoid chairman of the board, david miscavige.. i have read some of l. ron hubbard's books out of curiosity and outright dismissed them as utter nonsense.
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If a thread has been made about this I apologize.
If anyone has not seen the latest HBo documentary release, "Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief" I cannot recommend highly enough that you watch it.
As the majority of us here are either survivors of or still trapped in a cult ourselves, this documentary will most certainly intrigue you. It's the most in-depth and extensively researched documentary on Scientology ever and features interviews with ex-scientologists who were right at the top until they fell foul of their megalomaniacal, paranoid Chairman of the Board, David Miscavige.
I have read some of L. Ron Hubbard's books out of curiosity and outright dismissed them as utter nonsense. Yet here are all these people trapped in what is probably THE most oppressive and destructive cult of modern times.
I had no idea the way the cult controlled its members ran so parallel with the the bOrg.
They also practice disfellowshipping but it's called "disconnecting" and the results are identical.
They have apostates but call them "Suppressive persons" and are treated identically.
If you think the JW cult is harsh, watch this documentary- Scientology is brutal with actual prisons and re-education camps, physical torture - the whole shebang. After you leave you aren't just shunned, you're blackmailed, stalked, smeared and sometimes even assaulted.
There is some great footage from both clandestine footage confiscated by the authorities and some old interviews with the crook-liar L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology.
This documentary will astound you, I promise!
I wish one as good would be done about the bOrg ....
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The Monsters the WTBTS Created
by Coded Logic ingrowing up, the jws at the kingdom hall taught me that perfection is the only standard via which things can ever be measured.
"well yeah modern medicine is great - but it's pointless because they can't save everyone.
and they can't stop people from dying.
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Punk:
It seems a lot of ex-JWs have been set up for failure in the real world and the longer you were "in" the more lasting and detrimental the effects. So many of the threads on this forum prove it.
I like you Punk and I'm concerned about you. Obviously you are bitter for what you feel they have done to you - I know I am for what they did to my sister. But I'm worried your feeling of hoplessness is causing you some depression.
You're writing a book and I assume this is something you're passionate about. Try to concentrate on your passions, get out and go exploring. Keep that nice mind of yours occupied with positive things. don't let what that sick cult did to you determine your self worth or define you. You're way better than that my friend.
If you ever need someone to talk to just PM me.
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i'm changing, but for the worse
by embarrassed inthat is the truth-- that's really how i think now.
so why should i tell the truth?
just look at the person i've become.
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You're readimg too much into your responsibilities in this relationship. Clearly you are a person with a conscience and accept responsibility for your actions and thought process. He on the other hand sounds irresponsible, insecure and immature. Sounds to me the only reason you began to lie was because he already had you pegged as one - that is disrespectful on his part and certainly a form of abuse. My advice is: this guy sounds toxic, so get out before you reach the point where you feel like you've invested too much in the relationship to leave. You only have one life, no point in choosing to spend it with a person who has no respect for you. -
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Why are GMO's bad?
by cappytan inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh4bi60alzu.
first person to say, "this scishow episode is a monsanto conspiracy," is a rotten egg..
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DJS:
Your first reply on this page (pg. 4) is one of the best I've read on this forum. Great evidence, well compiled and pragmatic as can be. Loved it!
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Elder gossip
by Jumongi ini'll try to keep this short.
my experience at the hall is elders not really engaging in friendship building communication with anyone.
the only time they really communicate with you is to counsel you or tell you where you need to make adjustments.
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Welcome Jumongi! Yes that is a common observation. After all, they aren't there to be your friend, those days seem long gone, they're there primarily as GB enforcers nowadays. -
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Bible popularity??
by Diogenesister inmore ikea catalogues were printed last year than bibles.. ikea is a swedish flatpack furniture store..
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punkofnice2 minutes ago
Do Ikea do overlapping furniture? A faithful and discreet shelf? ............I shall stop right there.
Well parts sometimes overlap and If I owned Ikea furniture I would be discreet about it. -
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Wallkill, Patterson, Warwick etc - A Beginner's Guide Please?
by cofty incould anybody give us a brief summary of what these facilities are please?.
brit who has been out for 20 years is confused.
thanks..
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JustMe2:
The wife and I drive past there whenever we visit Mohonk. It doesn't seem like much of a farm to me but then a lot of it is hidden from the roadside view. I'm also not aware of where the boundaries of their property are so The few cattle I've seen may even belong to a neighboring farm. I would have expected the actual farm land to be more impressive but even the self propelled irrigation system seems inadequate.