Posts by Lindy

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Demons In Garage Sales or Worse

by Lindy in

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well guys, i've done it now!

our whole little town has a sale every june and this one was no exception.

while hubby was watching our sale, my oldest daughter and i walked around the neighborhood to see what we could filch out of our neighbors renderings.

Lindy

Dear Mommie,
Were the intials of the sister D.B.? I am not sure who you meant because I don't remember the little brothers staying there and that farm is the only one I can remember and B's were the only ones that were JWs that I can remember. But I may not have realized there were others, or my memory needs to be reminded. If it the place, she was annointed ya know, so she should have known a demon suitcase when she saw one! LOL!

Cracking and popping and hissing when things burn is definitly a sign of demons. Squealing noises are a absolute sure sign from God himself! The demons are leaving to enter swine at the neighboring farm, so they are practicing their new language!!

The stories in the car groups!! Whew! There were some doozies! I quess they whispered them or talked in hushed voices so the demons wouldn't hear!? As far as topping each others stories, the JWs love to do that on ANY subject! Everyone had something worse or even better (if they are talking about good things.) than the next guy. It is the only entertainment they get.

The rural territory was great! There are so many old houses with stories of demons attatched to them! We wouldn't even drive into some of the driveways unless we had a brother with us! No wonder we are warped Mommie!

Auntie Lindy

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Sat. Dist. Conv.--Cracking the whip!

by LostMyReligion in

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i have put in my final day at this year's test of posterior endurance---saturday at the district convention, 2001. i took quite a few notes today, because some had specifically asked about saturday's program.

i hope all will be suitably edified by them.

do not just listen to bits and pieces of the program, but to the whole thing.

Lindy

Thanks for the info. Good to know.

I noticed that the experiences were from older times. Nothing modern. Nothing new exciting is happening enough to bring out, so they bring something from the past and apply it for today like it is significant. I guess the "new seeds that are planted" aren't sprouting and growing.

The new book and schedule is for 2003? Two years from now! Well I guess that the "new system" is not very near is it? It isn't even out yet and to make it worth the making it will have to be used for several years at least, so I guess that they are "subtling" letting the brothers and sisters that the end is NOT nigh!

They seem to be talking more about the bad "apostates" and reading "bad" literature at each assmebly and convention. In other words, don't think and don't dare ask any questions, just parrot what you learn at meetings.

Same stuff on "you can't make it into the new system unless you are part of "God's Organization". Study, study, study! Meetings, meetings, meetings! Bring in NEW ones! (To many old ones leaving!)Brothers reach out so we have someone to intruct at the meetings! (What they aren't saying is why they need all these new bothers because so many are either stepping down or leaving.)

Auntie Lindy

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Demons In Garage Sales or Worse

by Lindy in

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well guys, i've done it now!

our whole little town has a sale every june and this one was no exception.

while hubby was watching our sale, my oldest daughter and i walked around the neighborhood to see what we could filch out of our neighbors renderings.

Lindy

Hi Francoise,
Yeah, Demons can enter objects, objects sold at garage sales and the like can be bought by JWs, then JWs can have demon problems in their houses. Many JWs will not buy used things for this reason. Many will buy at sales but if their are religious objects or books on the wrong things in the sale they won't buy anything at that sale. I am surprised that you didn't know this. Led a sheltered life in this area, eh?

When my first husband and I were having one bout, of the many bouts of marital trouble, we went around putting all sorts of stuff in the garage. I even tossed out a number of things I now wish I hadn't. We should have tossed out the religion and maybe our marriage would have made it!

One young couple had problems with the demons in their house and they discovered the demons were in the card table behind a door in the kitchen. Burned the table and no more demons. Now, tell me, if you were a demon, would you pick a ratty ol' card table to live in forever. And were did the demon go once it left the table? Did it hunt down another card table somewhere? Or is it like reincarnation, and it got to chose a better object to move into until it worked its way into a human? I can't believe that I believed this stuff and never once considered questioning it!

There are a lot more stories I could tell you and make you laugh.

Auntie Lindy

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Demons In Garage Sales or Worse

by Lindy in

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well guys, i've done it now!

our whole little town has a sale every june and this one was no exception.

while hubby was watching our sale, my oldest daughter and i walked around the neighborhood to see what we could filch out of our neighbors renderings.

Lindy

Well guys, I've done it now!

Our whole little town has a sale every June and this one was no exception. While hubby was watching our sale, my oldest daughter and I walked around the neighborhood to see what we could filch out of our neighbors renderings. One the walk around we noticed the church down the ways was having a rummage sale. Darest I enter into the darn dundgeon of a church basement and slink around and see what I could find? Yep, I darest. Nice sale, lots of stuff, priced cheap too. We walked away with a nice clean spotless tea kettle that my daughter has been wanting to have forever, and only a quarter to boot!

Now I tell you, I expect that the tea kettle (No, it is not blue, nor does it resemble smurfs in any way.) will somehow pour water in itself in the middle of the night, ignite the gas stove and start to whistle about 2a.m. Or maybe it will sprout legs and climb the stairs in the night just to sit and stare at me sometime in the wee hours of the morning. (If it brings me tea and a donut though, I definitly will have to keep it, demonized or not.) It just might even find its way out into the garage sale tomorrow, plunk a sign on itself, and march up and down in front of the house yelling "apostates live here!" (Or worse yet, it could start handing out Watchtower and Awakes to the early garage sale visiters!!)

But one thing I now know is, that I walked into a church and came away from it without a guilty feeling in any part of my body. Never would have even begun to think of going into a church rummage sale and even more so, never would have considered buying anything there. How sad to have guided my life by superstition for such a long time. (JWs laugh at people being superstious of walking under ladders and not letting black cats cross their paths, but believe instead, that everything under the sun is demonized.) But it is now great to live with the freedom of real living.

Have a great weekend everyone!
Lindy (Antique)

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Do they try too hard to be 'normal?'

by LDH in

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it has occurred to me recently, that a lot of the behavior of jws in good standing is done to trick themselves and others into thinking they're normal.

when in fact, they're not.. example:.

when a young jw man goes to a 'gathering' he will drink one beer loudly and proclaim how good cold beer is!

Lindy

Dear LDH,

You said:
"This same phenomenon happens at Christmas, when worldlings are told that our children get 'gifts all year long.' Now this is a blatant lie."

I have to take exception to this. There are many JW's who give their children gifts all year long. I was one of them. I made occasions to give my children things. They got more stuff all year long than most celebrating Christmas got. I am glad I did it, because they got things all the time in clebration of the things they achieved and it raised their self-esteem. Our congregation had others who did make sure the kids had a lot of fun. Costume parties and lots of other things. Although I hear that the Society has gotten very strict now on activities outside of meetings. To bad. Glad I am not still in and glad my children never "took" as far as accepting the faith they were raised in!

But of course, all the gifts didn't matter entirely for my children because at Holiday time when all the kids were getting them all at once and everything is decorated. It was still hard. And how about how we were supposed to tell our children that all the lights were not beautiful and that they were like Satan, making him self pretty as an angel of light! What bunk! I told my children that the lights and such were indeed beautiful and we had other reasons for not celebrating. I would not tell my children to deny their feelings and their own senses.

I always hated how JWs denied the obvious. It twists the young minds.
"Service is fun and is a "joy". "Christmas lights are evil and ugly" "College will turn you into a sex maniac and a drug dealer." "Worldly music is evil and has hidden messages that will draw you away from Jehovah." "Dancing to close or wildly will make you have sex and get prgnant." "Watching TV and videos above a GP rating will cause you to be violent and murder people." "Reading literature other than JW stuff will cause you to leave the path of righteousness and rot your mind." Going to the Prom and other dances will make you want to leave Jehovah because you are associating with "worldly" people because they are all doing drugs and alcohol." "After school activities are out, you might think thoughts that will draw you away from the "truth", because you are getting to much "wordly" influence and the time is better spent out in service and they take away precious study time." "Can't date. If you do it better be a JW, and you had better be a group date or else chaperoned, or you will be drawn away from the "Truth" and die at Armagedden."

And the list goes on and on and on.....All things to keep you and your families roped and tied.

Lindy

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When I Was In WT I Had It So Bad......

by messenger in

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who has the worst exaggerated story to tell about being a dub?

ex.. when i was a child we had to sit for fourteen hour assembly days in the hot sun without fans because they were not allowed for the other sheep.

we had to take shorthand of every word written in the talks and review our notes for two hours after the convention was over.

Lindy

TR,
No, no. Uphill, BACKWARDS, barefoot in the snow!

Lindy

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kiddie coloring book! get yours while they last!!

by teejay in

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http://www.geocities.com/heartland/prairie/8773/.

while browsing thru the site, you'll be treated to the.

rousing midi renditions of the kingdom melodies!!.

Lindy

There is a picture of Charles Taze Russell for the kiddies to color! Isn't that a bit to much?! A form of worship setting him up like that! Disgusting!

"Now kiddies, here is a picture of Jesus to color, and along side of that here is a picture of Charles Taze Russell? Right! After you are done with that, you can color the picture of Jezebel being thrown out the window to her death."

"Following that, we will go to the 2 different pictures of Stephen being stoned to death."

"When you are done coloring, I will tuck you into bed so you can have "sweet dreams" little ones!"

Lindy

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Have any successully faded away?

by lookingnow22 in

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i would be interested in hearing from any of you that have successfully "faded away" from the wbts.

i realize that there is no easy way to leave because of the way that the jw's will treat me.

mainly, i am concerned with my family.

Lindy

I started fading away about 8 years ago. I had a lot of doubts and my meeting attendance slipped greatly. My Mom (a JW) got colon cancer that had already spread through out her body. I spent most of my time doing things for her and taking care of my family. I hated the way she was treated while she went down hill. The brothers were remodeling our KH and just didn't have time for a sister who had been faithful to Jehovah for some 35 years. I had to beg for ones to visit her in the nursing home, with few exceptions. When she did die I had to beg the brother that she chose to do her memorial talk, who knew the all those years, to find the time to do it for her. It all made me sick. We moved away about 1 1/2 years later into the neighboring territory. We went to the first two memorials and 3 meetings within the first couple of years. No one bothered with us during that time nor since. I get calls from a sister when my subs run out and that's about it. It has really been great. Such peace, especially since I have done years of research on the net and elsewhere and really know the facts about the "Truth". True freedom!
I have a few in-laws that are JW's but two families are in Texas. The ones close here just stay clear. When we have contact we talk and that is all. It will be interesting though soon. My one SIL is dying from cancer. Her husband is DF and she had made it clear years ago that she is not interested in being a JW anymore. She has gone on to celebrate the holidays and never looked back. Another SIL is also considered and "apostate". The JW sister has been in regular contact with the sister with the cancer. I am glad that she is but it seems so hypocritical. But I guess she soothes her conscience with the fact that it is a "family" situation and allowable. Sad. But I do wonder how all will act when the ill sister dies. There are close cousins too that are JW's and I wonder how they will handles things then also. Should be interesting. But I assume that all will behave to some degree. It is so sad the the JW beliefs divide families like they do. The one set of cousins has gone out of the way to avoid me now for over a year, since the last time that I was with them I expounded on the things that I had found out and they were to shocked to deal with them. Never came to my youngest daughter's grad party last year either. But a new life has replaced them and life has gotten better. I have more time and a lot less quilt. I am going to college now and life gets more real every day.
Wish you the best in your choice. Take it slow and easy, it is usually the best way to handle it JW-wise and emotionaly. There is a lot of emotions to deal with depending on how long you are in and how involved you are while in.

Lindy (Antique)

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Are they demons?

by Free2Bme in

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since i left the org.

i have read some mind-boggling books on subjects such as mind-control, witchcraft, demonism, and conspiracy theories.. i obviously do not believe all i read but never-the-less have come across interesting real-life experiences that have made me wonder.. recently i read david icke's "the biggest secret" and found his theories on shape-shifting lizards ruling the world bizarre to say the least.. but something david icke said stopped me in mid-sneer.he said replace the lizards with demons if that was how you wanted to think of it.. it reminded me of a book i once borrowed from library about a young woman who was possessed by demons and described their shifting appearance as horrifically ugly or transforming to absolute visions of male beauty.. so if satan and his demons do rule this world as we were taught is it so unbelievable that they might possess influental people and certain individuals with psychic perception would be able to catch glimpses of them shape-shifting?.

anyone else familiar with icke's ideas and material?

Lindy

Carl Sagan's "The Demon-Haunted World" is a fantastic book! I read it and it helps you understand how people get so caught in their belief's. It goes into the UFO stuff too. Carl Sagan had a great mind.

Lindy

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Are they demons?

by Free2Bme in

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since i left the org.

i have read some mind-boggling books on subjects such as mind-control, witchcraft, demonism, and conspiracy theories.. i obviously do not believe all i read but never-the-less have come across interesting real-life experiences that have made me wonder.. recently i read david icke's "the biggest secret" and found his theories on shape-shifting lizards ruling the world bizarre to say the least.. but something david icke said stopped me in mid-sneer.he said replace the lizards with demons if that was how you wanted to think of it.. it reminded me of a book i once borrowed from library about a young woman who was possessed by demons and described their shifting appearance as horrifically ugly or transforming to absolute visions of male beauty.. so if satan and his demons do rule this world as we were taught is it so unbelievable that they might possess influental people and certain individuals with psychic perception would be able to catch glimpses of them shape-shifting?.

anyone else familiar with icke's ideas and material?

Lindy

I have read that stuff from David Icke and found it very interesting. But I got to "involved" with it and it started to make me a bit paranoid so I left it be for a while. A lot of it makes sense and is, to say the least, interesting. Did you read the military connections about the dragons with the marines? Lizard, dragons and the like go way back as far as symbols. The more I read the more everything ties together. I have found most everything I read ties in some how with the Bible, and not always in a good, and righteous way. It all circles around each other.

I found this following site last week and you might be interested in exploring it. This site deals with things like the multiple Gods, fairies and such and where they came from. All these things are a part of our history and I always thought that they had/have a basis somewhere. So the more I read the more likely I find that it isn't all in the Bible, and the Bible certainly doesn't hold all truths, and leaves some truths dangling a bit.
Please share with us your thoughts on things. E-mail me if you want to discuss this stuff off of here, if you'd like. Here's the site:

... http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/2301/Directory.html

Lindy