Now lookie here, Mommie, you are begining to scare me, tell that f'in alien to get the hell out of you...
Kidding aside, you are something else.
Your crazy SIL
i got an unsolicited email from a dub recently.
she read my stories at free minds and recognized one of the characters.
my brief reply was taken as an excuse to question me about the possibility of my returning to the jws.
Now lookie here, Mommie, you are begining to scare me, tell that f'in alien to get the hell out of you...
Kidding aside, you are something else.
Your crazy SIL
i got an unsolicited email from a dub recently.
she read my stories at free minds and recognized one of the characters.
my brief reply was taken as an excuse to question me about the possibility of my returning to the jws.
Mommie,
You already know that I love you dearly, and you already know what I am about to say. You are healing and getting stronger each and every day. Man, have you come a long way baby!!
Love and hugs,
Lindy
yesterday alanf posted an excellent parody of wt propoganda.
the thread was very interesting and a debate was underway as to whether he was way off base and just saying things out of hatred, or if there is some basis to think it's a possiblity, scary thought.. i have no intention of re-starting or starting a debate at this time (ok who am i and what have i don't to venice, jk hahhaha).
i simply would like to share my insights on the jw attitude toward apostates.. when i was a dedicated jw and had been asked that question by alan, 'would you kill apostates if the wts told you too?
Hi Ven,
I have to agree with you. When my own brother was DF many years ago, I was extremly upset that my Mom even talked with him, let alone sat down and ate with him and freely associated with him. She was smart. She used the excuse that my Father was not a JW and he was the head of the household so she could have my brother over. I was so gung ho on this that I even tried to get the brothers involved in "doing something about it!" I was terrified that if we didn't shun him, he would not come back "in" and he would die at the big A. But that is how you are taught. You shun and turn people in because you are told that if you don't you are unworthy of God's love and the fear of the Big A and not getting into Paradise looms over you. Never once during that time did I question such practices.
In the "good ole JW days" of my time in, apostates were the lowest things on the earth. The Society has the brs and strs thinking that the there simply isn't any thing more evil and slimmier, and more hated by God than Satan. We used to joke about running them over on the way out of the summer conventions while they stood there handing out tracks to us as we drove slowly by. Christian, huh? The hate for "apostates" and who they were was ingrained in us. That way no one would ever listen to one if they are a good JW, or take their literature and thus would never be "led" astray...heaven forbid. That is one way that the Society uses to rope and tie the flock that is now in their "keeping", among many ways.
When my niece was DF she was told that she was as good as dead if she was to continue to practice her gay life style. The elders told her so in their meeting with her. Loving huh? Broke her heart that these men who had shown her such love as a pioneer for many years, now turned on her and condemned her like a mad pack of dogs. By that time though, I had seen the "light" and was there to help her and give unconditional love.
it has been awhile since i posted this article here.
but with all the newer ones here, not to mention the new ones lurking, i would like to post it again.. it is an article i wrote last year, which i have received great response to.
i hope it might help you too.. you can find it at http://beam.to/truthquest .. there is a link right on the main page.. all my best to you!.
Hi Freepeace!!
Nice to see you! I think about you and hope you and your lovely wife are doing well. I made it to my second semester in college. Made the dean's list last semester. I couldn't have done it without the support from you, your e-mails, book and the support of all the friends I have now on here and on H2O (old board)!! Thanks guys, you all know who you are and I love ya all!! My girls were the best in getting me going and making me get through it all too. It is fun going to school along side your kids, at least in my case.
BTW, I am taking oral communication this semester, and I think of you and others who can do all that speaking, so I know I can too. It is only 3 speeches, and one group speech, so how bad can the 5-7 minutes each be?
We never know how we affect each others lives and I just wanted you to know you affected mine in a most positive way. Thank You!!
As Always,
Lindy (Antique, in case you don't know who the heck Lindy is!!)
well, i'm getting closer and closer to turning my life upside down and breaking away from my 43 years of conservative living.
any risk experiences out there?.
the risk i want to take is leaving banking, living a much more bohemiam life, maybe work as a waiter or bartender or something, go to school, travel, work on my furniture art, write, read, live.. aaaack.
Joel dear,
In my opinion, take the risk. I haven't taken the big risks that others here have taken, God bless them, but I took a big risk for me. Going to college as an older adult. Two semesters in, and I wish I had had the guts to do it years ago. I held myself back with al the standard excuses. Risk taking is scary, obviously. But it seems that when it pays off, it pays off pretty nicely. I don't see why you shouldn't do your hearts desire. The ho-hum life will always be there if you need it. I come from the bohemian life geneticaly. I heard my Grandma led the lifestyle greatly and was a very, very happy woman. I was always sorry she died before my time. I think I would have loved her and she would have made sure that I escaped the Borg much earlier.
Live life, my sweety, it is all you got!
Lindy
i am due in the middle of october and my husband and i cannot come up with a name.
i almost had him sold on venus, until he asked people at work what they thought and he got wierd looks.
i wanted to name the last baby sidney, but let him name her because he has never gotten a chance to name a kid before.
How about Marissa, Charlotte, Star, Suzanne, Legend?
Can't think of any boys names that aren't over popular right now. Maybe Charles?
well y'all, i leave the board for a few days and everything pops out.
lots of interesting stuff and no time for me to read and answer anymore.
nice going...(sarcastic grin) timed it just right to get few comments from me, dinnin ya?
Well y'all, I leave the board for a few days and everything pops out. Lots of interesting stuff and no time for me to read and answer anymore. Nice going...(sarcastic grin) timed it just right to get few comments from me, dinnin ya? LOL
I am back to college and it is soooo much more easier than last semester. No queasy stomach, no high anxiety, no trying to hide in the back of the class. Good thing too, because enrollement is really up! Classes are packed. I am really glad I started last spring. Lots of nontraditional students (older folks, for you who don't know what that means. Lots of post secondary kids too (high shcool student hoping for 2 years of free college).
My daughters are both in the same classes with each other this fall too. Totally unplanned. Different advisors, different interviews. I don't know if that is good or bad! LOL! It may be wonderfull for them or one of them may end up dead, or seriously wounded...they are like night and day, but both education majors. They are getting the "twin" thing because of it, although my olderst is older by three years, and I personally don't think they look that much alike, but they had heard that a lot over the years. Started when my oldest was about 14 or so.
My oldest is now employed at her dream job, can wear piercings, tattoos, purple hair and lots of jewelry, including pagan stuff, tongue ring and all. She has been unemployed, much to our dismay, for over 9 months so Dad and I are happy. But now the youngest isn't working....
But life goes on and I must go too and do some reading. There is lots of it it seems and I want to try and stay ahead. My classes don't look to difficult for me (that's what I say NOW..). Even the dreaded Effective Communications Class doesn't look as bad as I thought. Bad enough though, for a person who took F's in HS before getting up in front of the class. I'm not that inhibited now though. I can think now, I am allowed, and I have self-esteem now, much more than in the Borg. Being a foster parent for three years, and having to put in 24 some hours a year in classes and participation helped too.
For those of you who might be reading this, and are still in the Organization, note that life starts when you leave the Organization. And it is wonderfull!!! It is a real kick!! It has gotten better each and every year I have been away. And I was in a looong, looooong time.
As Always,(((love ya all))),
Lindy
it's been about a month since i posted... sorry to stay away so long.. many of you are aware that my parents stopped speaking to me last year, and the only time i've seen them in a year is when my dad had a heart attack.
i got an e-mail from my mom that asked how i "felt about their religion" since i'm celebrating holidays.. i sat down with mom on saturday and told her that regardless of our differences in beliefs, that we're still family, and that will never change.
i told her that i understand that she's conflicted because of her beliefs, and that it's been difficult for her.
Hi honey! Glad to see ya back and that all went sorta well with your parents. You are right, they can not understand. I look back on myself as a JW and I was the same as them and more. I could be (and still can be) an arrogant ass... They did compromise with you some though, and that is a good sign. That at least leaves the road open for what ever the future holds between you guys.
As Always,
Lindy
i once gave a public talk and part of the information was dicussing did god have a begining.. i didn't find much concrete evidence in the bible for god not having a begining except scriptures that said he was from time indefinate.. which doesn't answer the question.. also when it says he made the heavens and the earth could this just mean the sky and earth ?.
i don't know hebrew so could someone help me there?.
anyway what about this scripture isaiah 43:10 .
Keep researching...You will find some real interesting things along this line out there. I have been researching religion and I have found out a lot of interesting things on who might be the creature of life on this planet. There are more theories out there than the "almighty" creator. Some real garbage too. But have an open mind, not all is impossible either.
Lindy
i have just finished making phone calls informing the family of the death of my stepfather.
i was an adult when he married my mother, but i loved him very much.
he was a wonderful man.. although he was a faithful jw, for his entire life (he was born to it) he was a really good man, and a true christian, i believe.
Mulan,
So sorry for your loss and sorry too for the surrounding JW circumstances. He will live in on in your hearts and memories. I am glad they are such good ones. My Mom died about 7 years ago of cancer, that was hard enough. I was in at the time, and how she was treated at that time through her illness had a lot to do with me walking away shortly after her death. I am sorry that the JWs give you more to handle with such a greivous time than you should have to bear.
(()HUGS))
Lindy