Awen, thanks for posting these. I found them very interesting. I haven't looked into this very much, so I was surprised by some of the info. I especially enjoyed the first video. Your links showed up on my iPod touch, but not on the computer. So I thought I'd try re-posting them for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g8Jlx8ibUE&feature=player_detailpage
not just from the bible, but from secular writers and others.
or other similar mistakes/lies regarding quotes and stories and things like that.. .
i have noticed a few, but i can't remember most of them... oops.
bookmarked
richard feynman on god .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylteym9h0x4.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/richard_feynman.
"Ubi dubium ibi libertas"
(Where there is doubt, there is freedom)
[Latin proverb]
I also think he makes a good point saying, "When we go to investigate (nature), we shouldn't pre-decide what it is we're trying to do, except to find out more about it," along with his following point that the reason we find out more about it is because, rather than not looking for a specific answer, we're open to whatever the answer actually is.
Looking for predecided answers is like needing something to write with and wanting a pen, but all you can find in the drawer are pencils. Thus, you conclude, there is nothing to write with.
for me it was many things.
most concerned certain teachings that invloved genders, children, sex, sexuality and sexual orientations, disfellowshipping, apostates, blood, rape, and few other things, as well as the jw's unloving attitude toward so many people..
The innate necessity to BE HAPPY!
i have the service mtg part tonight..."the offer for july" which is the "was life created" brochure which has the flawed .
statement about a large sized spiderweb stopping a jumbo jet mid-flight.
the society has offered a retraction of the .
Do the part and say something like, "This is the offer for the month. This this states the fact about the spiderweb and the jet. Now, remember brothers and sisters, that the wise and loving FDS has retracted this statement. So be sure to point it out to the householders as you make your placements." Or something to that effect.
Edited to add: I didn't read all the posts. (oops) Sorry if this suggestion has already been given.
through being "kept busy", jw parents can become emotionally distanced from their children, thus creating abandonment issues which manifest themselves later in adult life.
have a read of the following article .
i have highlighted some critical comments which may be applicable to being raised as a jw.. have you been affected by abandonment issues?.
Great thread, sizemik. I hadn't thought about abandonment issues before. I can see some similarities like my parents not being emotionally present (not much, anyway) and security is a huge thing for me in a relationship. I've always been the one to leave. Maybe that is a subconscious abandonment thing or maybe it's something else. I don't know.
and from the granite planet!!!
mr. donnie dunphy!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqs1rwo5vp0.
OMG, I guess this proves anyone can put anything on the internet! LOLl I think your words were, "stoopid funny". Well, you were half right!
discussions on evolution and creation are now completely resolved.
no further information on this forum will ever be needed.
so we can all move on.
HA! Now all of my questions have finally been answered! LOL
can anyone tell me why rutherford is not shown giving a talk or speaking in public?
i noticed that russell was on film in the first dvd -out of darkness but rutherford was shown in a picture only - never speaking or doing a public presentation, same goes for the second one -they have an actor portraying him... was there a reason?
was his persona that bad?
Hey, Zid! I thought you were about to hit the hay! JWN is a bit like quicksand, isn't it?
can anyone tell me why rutherford is not shown giving a talk or speaking in public?
i noticed that russell was on film in the first dvd -out of darkness but rutherford was shown in a picture only - never speaking or doing a public presentation, same goes for the second one -they have an actor portraying him... was there a reason?
was his persona that bad?
MrMonroe, I agree that the JWs are what they are today because of the Judge. Your list is a good start!
Zid, I had the same thought. Here is Rutherford on YouTube. He sounds like all the other boring old guys from Bethel, at least in this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2dK9rumZCI&feature=player_detailpage
