Posts by lisaBObeesa

But there are thousands like him...and thousands worse off than him..people with no homes...entire families, or even villages gone...it is difficult to comprehend the suffering of so many people....

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Benny Hinn - DO YOU BELIEVE IN MIRACLES?

by William Penwell in

just watched a documentary about benny hinn ministry, i can't believe anyone is that gullible to believe this crap.

not only is he a fraud but he is also a crook, taking money from poor susceptible people.

he also sure likes to live the high life to.

lisaBObeesa

I was praying and believing God for a car, and I planted two separate seed-gifts into Benny Hinn Ministries, in faith......

*****( This means: "I gave $money$ to Benny Hinn that I really didn't have to give. In fact I need money, badly').********

.......Last week, God blessed my family with not one, but two brand new cars. I am so grateful to God?to Him be the Glory.

= Give Benny Hinn your money and God will buy you whatever you need! Promise!

What a vile, vile person Benny Hinn is.

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Where is the Seattle PIC thread?

by darkuncle29 in

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friends

is there already a picture thread for the seattle apostafest?

lisaBObeesa

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/19/82462/1.ashx

It has been closed. Maybe this could be the new one?

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post your new christmas pics here!

by MelbaToast in

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friends

well, so far i've seen valis' pics, apostofest pics, and a few others.

so i am just giving an outlet for you to post your christmas pics.

heres a picture of me with my girl, with her dad asleep on christmas eve, and just her showing off .

Pathetic JW Web Site

by DevonMcBride in

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friends

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this guy needs a friend...and a life.

definitely a few fries short of a happy meal.. http://www.flyinhi.freeservers.com/.

lisaBObeesa

I am studying to be one of Jehovahs Witnesses but have a long way to go although I have given up all my friendships in the world

And they say it isn't a cult.

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The collapse of the Watchtower. Write your gloomy-doomy scenario here.

by Pole in

hey, prophets of doom, if you were to write an abstract of a screenplay for a movie about the collapse of the watchtower what would be the final nail in the coffin?

make it as serious or as preposterous as you like.. here's two scenarios to begin with.

english is not my first language, so naturally yours may be much more entertaining.. .

lisaBObeesa

write an abstract of a screenplay for a movie about the collapse of the Watchtower

Picture this, 2034:

Int. Governing Body Room ? Governing Body's voice booms out of Giant Throne as the CAMERA
PULLS back to reveal the Scarecrow, Dorothy, Lion and Tin Man standing in
front of it --

GOVERNING BODY'S VOICE
Can I believe my eyes? Why....

MLS -- The Four trembling with fear -- CAMERA PULLS back as Dorothy comes
forward with the bag full of weekly time slips and places it on the steps to throne

GOVERNING BODY'S VOICE
...have you come back?

DOROTHY
Please, sir. We've done what you told us.
We've Preached to every single person we could find and we placed every single piece of literature?we have not gone to college and we have work menial jobs to have more time to do you bidding. We have shunned our relatives, broken up our families and a few of us have even died. We did just as you said.

GOVERNING BODY'S VOICE
Oh ...you actually managed to do all that, eh? Very....

MS -- Dorothy smiling, with the Tin Man, Lion and the Scarecrow in back of
her also looking pleased

GOVERNING BODY'S VOICE
...resourceful!

DOROTHY
Yes, sirs. So we'd like you to keep your
promise to us, if you please, Oh Great Faithful and Discreet Slave.

GOVERNING BODY'S VOICE
Not so fast! Not...so fast! I'll have to give the matter a little thought. Go away and come back tomorrow!

DOROTHY
Tomorrow? Oh, but I want to go to the New System now.

TIN MAN
You've had plenty of time already!

LION
Yeah!

GOVERNING BODY'S VOICE
Do not arouse the wrath....
...of the Great and Powerful Faithful and Discreet Slave! I said --
come back tomorrow!

CAMERA
PULLS back to right to enter the curtain where Toto ran. -- it
shakes as Toto starts to pull it back --

DOROTHY
If you were really great and powerful,
you'd keep your promises!

GOVERNING BODY'S VOICE
Do you presume to criticize the....

MLS -- Toto pulls back the curtain to reveal the Wizard at the controls of
the throne apparatus -- his back to the camera

GOVERNING BODY'S VOICE
...Great The Faithful and Discreet Slave? You ungrateful creatures! Think yourselves lucky that I'm...giving you audience tomorrow, instead of..

MS -- The Wizard at the controls -- his back to camera -- he speaks into
the microphone -- he turns, and sees that the curtain
is gone -- reacts and turns back to the controls --

GOVERNING BODY'S VOICE
...twenty years from now. Oh -- oh oh!
The Great Oz has spoken! Oh -- Oh ---....

LS -- Shooting past the Four at left to the Wizard as he pulls back the
curtain --

DOROTHY
Who are you?

MCU - The Wizard peering out from curtain - he ducks back out of sight and
his voice booms out again -

GOVERNING BODY'S VOICE
Oh - I - Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
Go - before I lose my temper! The Faithful and Discreet..

MCS -- Dorothy pulls back the curtain to reveal the Wizard at the controls

GOVERNING BODY'S VOICE

... ? The Faithful and Discreet Slave -- has spoken!

DOROTHY
Who are you?

GOVERNING BODY'S VOICE
Well, I -- I -- I am The Faithful and Discreet Slave.

DOROTHY
You are?

WIZARD
Uhhhh -- yes...

DOROTHY
I don't believe you!

WIZARD
No, I'm afraid it's true. There's no other
The Faithful and Discreet Slave except me.

MCS -- Dorothy and her three friends react -- Camera shooting past the
Wizard at left -- the Scarecrow and Lion speak angrily --

SCARECROW
You humbug!

LION
Yeah!

CS -- Wizard -- shooting past Dorothy, the Lion and Scarecrow -- the
Wizard speaks --

WIZARD
Yes-s-s -- that...that's exactly so. I'm
a humbug!

DOROTHY
Oh ....you're a very bad man!

>>>>Then, Dorothy and her friends tell everyone in the whole world the truth about the little man behind the curtain ?and they appear on all the talk shows and the Faithful and Discreet Slave is brought up on charges of tax evasion! And THAT is the end of the Watchtower!<<<<<<<<<

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Who here still finds it hard to celebrate Christmas?

by dh in

jw
friends

i was raised a jw and as i've probably said before, i left when i was around 18... i'll be 27 in a few days, and as i get older realise how i do not really know how to celebrate anything.

being raised a jw we never had xmas or birthdays (or any celebration), and since none of the friends i had when i left the jw's were christian either, i have to this day never celebrated it... i am not christian and will openly admit that i couldn't care less about the religious side of christmas, but what i see around me, everywhere in the world are people who aren't really christian either, celebrating christmas, either for kids or friends or whatever, but i've never done that or had anyone around me to do that with... people look forward to this time of year so much, they buzz and rush around like it's a real event, and to this day i've never been able to feel that way.

most of my christmas/birthdays since leaving jw's have been spent by myself, completely devoid of celebration, i want to get into that feel good spirit, but i don't know how, and if i try to fake it, i know it is fake.

lisaBObeesa

I was raised JW so no Christmas for me growing up, and I didn't really miss it. The only holiday I missed and wished for was halloween!

My first Christmas was when I was about 17 I guess, at my worldly boyfriend's house. Watching that dysfunctional mess of a family come together in their own crazy way was........ heart-warming! After that, I had the Spirit!

The next few Christmases were ok (I moved out on my own), but not as special as the first.....and then my children came along.

Christmas is magic when you have kids.

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Smokers: Non-Smoker Seeks Xmas Advice

by Swan in

jw
friends

i am trying to find a nice cigarette lighter for my husband for xmas.

i thought it would make a great stocking stuffer surprise.

currently he is using matches, a cheapo convenience store lighter, or the cig lighter in our car.

lisaBObeesa

The coolest lighters are ZIPPO's!!!

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Would you continue to be a JW if?

by XQsThaiPoes in

you knew what things the jws are wrong about, and did not praticipate in them, or propagate them (there would be no reprisal from the boe or other jws if you did this).

your family and friends would treat you the same if you were a jw or not.

i am wondering who would be compelled by some inner flame to leave jws even if you could stay and believe or behave how you wanted.

lisaBObeesa

How could I sit there and watch people shun and be shunned?

How could I sit and watch people die from not taking blood?

How could I watch the huge burden of guilt that the True Believers labor under?

How could I watch evil things swept under the rug (like child abuse)?

How could I sit there and watch new people get ticked into believing the LIE?

If a person just goes along with the party line, but doesn't believe it in their heart, it makes no difference. Who cares what a person believes in their heart?? What matters in this life is what you DO!

If I don't agree with the Republicans in my heart, but still give them my time and my money, what the heck does it matter that in my heart I am a Democrat??

The only thing that is REAL is what happens. Everything else is just a thought.

You can think different all you want. But it doesn't change one single thing in reality. In your senerio, despite my private thoughts, I would still be a JW and everything that goes along with it.

My answer is NO.