Posts by TimothyT

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Are Jehovah's Witnesses Chrsitians?

by TimothyT in

despite being a jw for 20 years, this has just flashed up into my mind?.

of course jesus is important in the lives of jw's, but they worship jehovah!.

hence, are they christians or jehovians?.

TimothyT

Despite being a JW for 20 years, this has just flashed up into my mind?

Of course Jesus is important in the lives of JW's, but they worship Jehovah!

Hence, are they Christians or Jehovians?

Tim x

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Jehovah's witnesses and control, what are your thoughts ?

by recovering in

as i reflect on my life as a jw i remember how the religion attempts to control so many aspects of your life.

i decided to make a list with examples of the mind numbing number of things that they feel they have the right to control in members lives.. 1 what and how much education its members are entitled to pursue.

the witnesses look down on formal secondary education.

TimothyT

Good post this one. Im currently studying this subject. I am a gay 23 JW and i will shortly be leaving the organisation. Here are my thoughts:

1. My brother and I both went to university, encouraged by our dad who was at the time an elder! The elders werent happy at all. Im proud of the fact i went to uni and i generaly see myself and my brother as two of the brightest and most intellecutal young brothers in our congregation. The rest are just drones who just mindlessly go along with everything they hear. In my opinion THIS is the very reason why they seriously discourage university. It gave me the ability to question and to evaluate EVERYTHING. I remember one sister said to me that i need to be careful when i question the society and doing so shouldnt be done like an academic exercise. Unfortunately, i have questioned it and i see it has no foundation and thus should have no future in my life. Simply put - University teaches students how to question everything in their lives, something the WTS DONT want their followers to do.

2. I know very little about blood and how it works, and i can see their stand on blood. It does appear to be valid. However, i bleieve that they should NEVER condemn a person who decides to take blood. If a JW chooses to do so, he must consider his consciense and his relationship with God. It is true though - this doctrine does give the WTS a measure of control over peoples lives.

3. This one really aggravates me. I have seen families destroyed by this VERY odd, and in my opinion, very unchristian doctrine. How can some men tell you not to associate with your own family??? Its absurd. The simple reason like you said is that the moment you do, you are made to believe that you are compromising your relationship with God. In reality i believe its a simple technique to keep you safely within the organisations grasp. Unloving. I cant believe this happens too. People DO shun their family for the sake of an ideal.

4. This one forms the very core of my issues with the WTS. One sister said to me the other day... "Im so glad discrimination doesnt happen here!" Unfortunately it does. I cant be who i am and be a JW. I appreciate Jehovahs regulations but unfortunately homosexuality is a fact and in many cases it cant be changed. Why bother trying to change it? In other areas of sexuality, i personaly feel its up to a couple how they express their love. It shouldnt be left up to a number of older men sitting in a room. Again, its surpirsing how many go along with it.

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An open letter to the Governing Body: Go F*ck Yourselves.

by EntirelyPossible in

dear member of the governing body,.

thanks to you, i did something a few nights ago that i promised i would never do again.

i lied to someone.

TimothyT

Heaven has made some great points.

To her you should listen! :D

Good luck!

Timmy

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I now have a gay boyfriend! Disfellowship me!

by TimothyT in

i cant believe how amazing i now feel as opposed to how aweful my life was but 4 months ago.. after some careful consideration, i decided to be gay despite being a jw.. the moment i chose this course, my life became so positive and i noticeably felt happy again.. 3 months ago i met a lovely man who took an interest in me.

one week ago we decided it was time to become boyfriends.. well, i feel incredible.

all i can say is that this course of life based on my being true to myself, despite the fact that it contradicts what i have been brought up to believe, has made life worth living again.. despite being gay, and slowly coming out to those who matter to me, i also have come to realise how flawed this organisation is anyway.. im a keen bible student but i dont see the organisations claim to authority.. to be honest, ill be glad to get out of it and start living my life as happily as i can whilst still trying my best to serve god.. thanks to those who supported me and of course to my boyfriend 'jackal' who joined this forum in order to understand what has made up my entire upbringing!.

TimothyT

Thanks Eruption. Do you know, I was also conditioned to hate gays, and for a long time i did. But i have learnt now, through my own experiences, that its good to just accept others for the fact that they are people instead of focusing on what they believe or what they are. I hope the world becomes like this some day. I very much doubt the JWs will. Their loss.

Thanks for your kind words. xxx

Timmy :D

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An open letter to the Governing Body: Go F*ck Yourselves.

by EntirelyPossible in

dear member of the governing body,.

thanks to you, i did something a few nights ago that i promised i would never do again.

i lied to someone.

TimothyT

Heaven has made some great points.

To him you should listen! :D

Good luck!

Timmy

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I now have a gay boyfriend! Disfellowship me!

by TimothyT in

i cant believe how amazing i now feel as opposed to how aweful my life was but 4 months ago.. after some careful consideration, i decided to be gay despite being a jw.. the moment i chose this course, my life became so positive and i noticeably felt happy again.. 3 months ago i met a lovely man who took an interest in me.

one week ago we decided it was time to become boyfriends.. well, i feel incredible.

all i can say is that this course of life based on my being true to myself, despite the fact that it contradicts what i have been brought up to believe, has made life worth living again.. despite being gay, and slowly coming out to those who matter to me, i also have come to realise how flawed this organisation is anyway.. im a keen bible student but i dont see the organisations claim to authority.. to be honest, ill be glad to get out of it and start living my life as happily as i can whilst still trying my best to serve god.. thanks to those who supported me and of course to my boyfriend 'jackal' who joined this forum in order to understand what has made up my entire upbringing!.

TimothyT

Thanks everyone.

Paula: Im so glad you are happy to hear this. I was thinking of you when i posted. :D Yes im so happy with the way things are working out, and i realise that there is nothing at all wrong with me. Im so excited about the future and im not letting anyone stand in my way. :D xxx

Tia.dalma: I appreciate your honesty but not your tact. I have already been through a rough time over the past year and am still a little sensitive. I am a lot stronger than i used to be, but i DONT appreciate being called a 'fake' and a 'coward'. This process takes time. Anyone who has been through it will appreciate that. You are right though. I have no reason to be a JW anymore and dissasociation is coming up when and how i see fit.

Broken Promises: Thanks very much. Im so happy with my progress. Thanks for your support too.

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An open letter to the Governing Body: Go F*ck Yourselves.

by EntirelyPossible in

dear member of the governing body,.

thanks to you, i did something a few nights ago that i promised i would never do again.

i lied to someone.

TimothyT

My heart goes out to you EP!

I understand this all too well! I have seen families destroyed in the name of thi religion, iv seen people even die in the name of it (myself coming very close, ie. suicide).

Im glad that like myself you have taken appropriate steps to be rid of this wierd claim that these man have to power. Im keenly studying it at the moment and i seriously cannot understand why they feel they are inspired of God, and even more perplexing why EVERY JW just goes along with it, when the bible clearly never even hints of such an arrangement.

Anyway, I hope that your son understands at some point that the organisation isnt God's and that he can have a personal relationship with God without needing the help of a warped, mind controlling religion. Maybe you could focus on such things when you spend time with him. Show him how he doesnt need the JWs. I hope things improve between you too.

Hugs.

Timmy :D

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I just finished watching part 2 of Faith in Action DVD....I'm in complete shock!

by Joliette in

jw
friends

that was the biggest piece of propaganda garbage that i ever seen in my life !!!!!!!

in literally all 28 years of my life!!!!!!!.

i dont want to spoil it for anyone, so i wont mention what they didnt mention...but basically, they made themselves look like victims.. but of course, they did mention persecution, the new world translation of the holy scriptures(because jehovah's name had cruelly been taking out of the bible by the corrupt religious leaders), and the biblically based arrangement of the governing body.. i'm in utter shock .

TimothyT

Hehe... just finished watching it. Im going to be as unbiased as possible now.

The Good:

The bible students back in the day and even the JWs now truly see a need to talk to others about Jehovah and what he has done for mankind. I admire that.

The Bad:

This isnt an accurate history. Bits have been left out.

They play the victims which makes me very critical and suspicious.

They clearly try to make the viewer feel, through clever imagery and music that the organisation is just so incredible.

They show how they have been very judgemental of other religions and then are surpised when they meet opposition.

The governing body still dont explain where their claim to power comes from.

All in all, an interesting watch but i do believe it will go into the library of JW propoganda.

If youre thinking of watching it, go ahead, but i do believe that 45 minutes could be FAR better spent on reading about Jehovahs TRUE arrangement in the bible. Now thats time better spent!

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I now have a gay boyfriend! Disfellowship me!

by TimothyT in

i cant believe how amazing i now feel as opposed to how aweful my life was but 4 months ago.. after some careful consideration, i decided to be gay despite being a jw.. the moment i chose this course, my life became so positive and i noticeably felt happy again.. 3 months ago i met a lovely man who took an interest in me.

one week ago we decided it was time to become boyfriends.. well, i feel incredible.

all i can say is that this course of life based on my being true to myself, despite the fact that it contradicts what i have been brought up to believe, has made life worth living again.. despite being gay, and slowly coming out to those who matter to me, i also have come to realise how flawed this organisation is anyway.. im a keen bible student but i dont see the organisations claim to authority.. to be honest, ill be glad to get out of it and start living my life as happily as i can whilst still trying my best to serve god.. thanks to those who supported me and of course to my boyfriend 'jackal' who joined this forum in order to understand what has made up my entire upbringing!.

TimothyT

I cant believe how amazing I now feel as opposed to how aweful my life was but 4 months ago.

After some careful consideration, i decided to be gay despite being a JW.

The moment i chose this course, my life became so positive and i noticeably felt happy again.

3 months ago I met a lovely man who took an interest in me. One week ago we decided it was time to become boyfriends.

Well, I feel INCREDIBLE. All i can say is that this course of life based on my being true to myself, despite the fact that it contradicts what i have been brought up to believe, has made life worth living again.

Despite being gay, and slowly coming out to those who matter to me, i also have come to realise how flawed this organisation is anyway.

Im a keen bible student but i dont see the organisations claim to authority.

To be honest, ill be glad to get out of it and start living my life as happily as i can whilst still trying my best to serve God.

Thanks to those who supported me and of course to my boyfriend 'Jackal' who joined this forum in order to understand what has made up my entire upbringing!

Love you all,

Timmy :D x

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I just finished watching part 2 of Faith in Action DVD....I'm in complete shock!

by Joliette in

jw
friends

that was the biggest piece of propaganda garbage that i ever seen in my life !!!!!!!

in literally all 28 years of my life!!!!!!!.

i dont want to spoil it for anyone, so i wont mention what they didnt mention...but basically, they made themselves look like victims.. but of course, they did mention persecution, the new world translation of the holy scriptures(because jehovah's name had cruelly been taking out of the bible by the corrupt religious leaders), and the biblically based arrangement of the governing body.. i'm in utter shock .

TimothyT

Watching it right now! I just love the way they make it sound like the persecution they receieved was so unjust and a crime against Jehovah and the organisation.

WAKE UP CALL!!! If you go slating off other religions they are going to persecute you! Is that not common sense?

Its a very cheap tactic to slate another religion!