Hillary:Well said.
The scaremongering of political propaganda has much to answer for, in dividing fellows.
who is merry?
i was born in 1965, the same year that malcolm x was assassinated.
my father had committed suicide a few months into my mother's pregnancy so we lived with her parents until she married again when i was about 18 months old.
Hillary:Well said.
The scaremongering of political propaganda has much to answer for, in dividing fellows.
mum tried to 'catch' me and megan out with a few doctrines of the dubs compared to what we believe.. it was funny how her bible actually differed from ours and how she worried about that.
for example.... luke 23:43. jesus answered him, "i tell you the truth, today you will be withme in paradise.
" in the new international version.. whereas the new world translation says.... "and he said to him: "truly i tell you today, you will be with me in paradise.".
They also don't tend to like the idea that the theif must be one of the anointed if he was going to be with Jesus. That or Jesus is going to be in Paradise, but then how does that tally with him being in heaven? Oh, my head hurts!
They say that all advertising is good advertising. In this case the link to "Fat B*st*rd" in Austin Powers is likely to make it seem borderline cool
I wouldn't be caught dead wearing one, but that having been said, I'd rather not be caught dead, period
who is merry?
i was born in 1965, the same year that malcolm x was assassinated.
my father had committed suicide a few months into my mother's pregnancy so we lived with her parents until she married again when i was about 18 months old.
Silver is just another shade of grey
we didn't go to the memorial last night.. husband and self went to sainsburys and bought easter eggs for the kids and we bought the dvds of 'a night in the museum' and 'flushed away'.. easter egg consumption will commence on sunday as with the usual pagan ritual.. films have already been watched, enjoyed and watched again.. we went shopping half an hour before the memorial was due to start so that any jws going past would see we were consumed in our worldly pleasures!!
we also bought a load of reduced 'danish' and us and kids ate them with relish with a nice cup o' tea!.
ah!
I enjoyed a pleasant evening, too. I helped a friend get his house in order, ready for selling; and then went home to watch a movie. Nice
soooo...i was in at the bank last week and had a great discussion with the teller there.
she has been in banking for over 20 years and despite using this bank for the past 3 years, this was the first time we had a chance to gab.
this was a bank in california by the way.
Derek:
It's probably better for tipper and tippee if the tips are in note rather than coin form - especially in a strip club, those g-strings can only take so much weight.
And the problem with that would be?
so i have a job here in my new home of louisville but due to taxes and a county tax (wtf?
) i'm not making as much as i thought i would be.
and compound that with the fact i was supposed to have a roommate paying half the rent of my apartment, i'm down to a whopping $73 a week to live on.
For a moment I thought you mean a budget at work. I'd be qualified to discuss that, given that mine is over £1M
Domestically, I spend maybe the equivalent of $50/week on food. Gas would be another story. I live close to where I work, but I still spend maybe $50/week on gas, given the higher prices this side of the pond (4x as high). I also take on the occasional weekend job.
Have you got the ability to pursue getting another roomie, or taking on a second small job to supplement your income and fill the time so that you're not spending the money you haven't got?
who is merry?
i was born in 1965, the same year that malcolm x was assassinated.
my father had committed suicide a few months into my mother's pregnancy so we lived with her parents until she married again when i was about 18 months old.
Gyles:
As ever you make some fascinating comments.
I don't really see that much bias towards Christians here after one factors out Christian topics maybe being of interest to more posters due to our common past.
The only thing that I would specifically suggest is that it is usually raised up as the default example of why religion is so hideous. Given our common background in coming from a so-called Christian religion, perhaps that's not so surprising, though.
In any case, the meek shall inherit the Earth, in the words of Mrs. Big Nose "Oh, it's the meek! Blessed are the meek! Oh, that's nice, isn't it? I'm glad they're getting something, 'cause they have a hell of a time."
LOL - Gotta love Life of Brian, for irreverently enabling us to question basic premises.
I'm making a point. Yes, I can agree your religious experience is about conquering your base nature and submitting to god. But you are not so much enslaving yourself to god, but enslaving yourself to one particular tradition of god that cannot hold itself above others and demonstrate it is better. If it is about god then the idea of Sunni Allah or Shia Allah, hijab Allah or non-hijab Allah, all becomes human vanity and symbolism and irrelevent to your core task, submitting to god internally as you experience god.
That's such a good point. Its a difficult tension between tolerance and a framework of belief that makes sense of the [supernatural] world.
For me this is the chief pitfall of any spritual search; as it is search without external proof or validation, but one which lies on internal resonance, the risk is that as there IS no external counterpart to validate our beliefs as we have worshipped god as we would like him to be, not as god may be.
Agreed. As such religion can be a perilous stepping stone.
"My" Allah doesn't care about 'hats' on women, or ham on plates, or about this theory of origin or that theory of origin. It cares about the love in your heart.
I think you have love in your heart, but just wish you didn't have all the baggage you associate as being neccesary for a relationship with god based on what some bloke said.
I think you've cut right through to the nub of spirituality right there. He does have a penchant for rainbows, though
People say not believing in god makes one one's own god. But putting a belief in a god without proof means we are doing exactly that; elevating opinon to the level of deity. It is ironic that both theists and non-theists commit the same 'sin' at the end of the day.
We all love our idols, don't we?
i'm just going to start at the beginning.. i was anticipating the memorial all day.
i was nervous but excited, kind of like standing in line for a roller coaster.. ok. so erika gets ready at her house, and i get ready at mine.
i'm wearing a black suit with a light green shirt, and a tie that had hues of green and yellow in it.
Slim:
IMHO you make some astute observations, and I thank you for your reply.
When Jehovah's Witnesses call their religion "the truth" they are not in error.
I disagree. Likewise I wouldn't call any religion or book "the truth", as I recently commented on in the latest Trinity thread. But I suspect we can agree to disagree.
It constantly surprises me that people like your dad still take the religion seriously.
You're not the only one. He's an intelligent and caring man. I can't help but wonder how much of the investment is tied up in loving [and supporting the decisions of] his parents. If it was good enough for them, its good enough for us, etc. This is a different generation that rarely does things for that reason anymore.
To be frank and to my shame, I never questioned things either, even as an Elder. As you know, I was raised with it and believed it hook, line and sinker. To that end I can only applaud young, free-thinking people who come to realise its a crock without the kind of jolt that kickstarted my own awareness.
It was something like: "should someone with AIDS go to a book study in someone's house?" I thought to myself what on earth is that all about. How is that relevant.
I remember that well, but didn't know about her comments, so thanks for filling me in with that little detail. We had actually taken that lassie to the Hall, for her questions, and it was shortly prior to my realising that I would have to leave the WTS. Some supplementary questions had come out about AIDS, wherein it was suggested that folks with that ailment should go to the Hall Book Study Group rather than a private home. I was especially interested because I took the Hall group, but aside from that it had become de rigeur to ask those questions
It seems he wants to bind his future self into a position where his bodily appearance would prevent him from reversing his decision to leave the Witnesses.
I suspect he would disagree with you as to his reasons, but the psychology of such things is certainly an interesting topic.
And I feel some get a perverse thrill out of seeing him do things they "wish they had the guts to do themselves" or some such silly notion. But that's a bit selfish because he is a real human being out there somewhere with a mother who is crying.
I agree. Human nature is a strange and perverse thing, sometimes, huh?
i'm just going to start at the beginning.. i was anticipating the memorial all day.
i was nervous but excited, kind of like standing in line for a roller coaster.. ok. so erika gets ready at her house, and i get ready at mine.
i'm wearing a black suit with a light green shirt, and a tie that had hues of green and yellow in it.
Richie:
You've certainly got balls
Slim:
Would it have been possible for you to leave the truth without estranging your mother? Why didn't you simply fade away like so many do?
Your first error is in still calling it "the truth". Sometimes you have to do what you have to do. Fading is not for everyone just as DAing is not for everyone. To each their own, for there is a price to pay either way.
Apparently I managed to make my dad cry. Not something I'm proud of, but neither something that I had much control over, as I maintain that my course of action in DAing was the right one for my circumstances. To each their own.
Sure a bee can sting, but why provoke it? I don't get it.
Unless you've walked a mile in his shoes you won't get it.
I honestly worry that people on this forum who have been goading you on through your various stunts are also partly responsible.
He's got his own mind, as he has proven time and time again. Regularly he makes his own decisions then comes here to discuss them to get a reality check. I don't think he's the kind of guy who needs accolades or sycophants, as he has his own spine. If you read his previous thread you will see that there were opinions on both sides of the fence, over this, with noone encouraging him to intentionall hurt his mother.
Dansk:I couldn't agree more.