hello all... i came across this line of questioning many months on the inet so i decided that i would submit just this once to peer pressure and make a usefull contribution to the board.. here is the question... is jesus just "a god?".
many of the regular inet surfers would have come across this line of questioning before so if you have you could just sit back and relax and read the replys.. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>.
me: so is he a 'lesser true god' or a 'lesser false god?'.
Haven't got time to read lots of rhetoric, this weekend, as I'm REALLY busy.
Can we condense some stuff?
AlanF - I'd really like to hear your explanation regarding John 1:1.
Apostateman - can you condense that thread into a statement of faith?
Just to keep the ball rolling...
I believe John 1:1 is saying that the Word was God and was with God.
I also have to consider John 14:16, which tells me that the Holy Spirit was like Jesus.
hello all... i came across this line of questioning many months on the inet so i decided that i would submit just this once to peer pressure and make a usefull contribution to the board.. here is the question... is jesus just "a god?".
many of the regular inet surfers would have come across this line of questioning before so if you have you could just sit back and relax and read the replys.. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>.
me: so is he a 'lesser true god' or a 'lesser false god?'.
Wiz:
Ps.82 is an interesting one.
I wonder if Asaph suffered the normal problem of poets bending words to get a rhyme?
Only joking.
Is Jesus (the Word) contained in the heavens?
Further, the creation account seems to begin at a point where the earth is "formless and waste".
Taking the "before time began" comment, surely we have God / Word / Spirit before this period (where time exists) begins?
When did time start? With the periods of definable light and dark?
Just a few thoughts.
AlanF:
You really don't need to add insult to misery.
Why decend to that level?
LOL
You probably don't give squat for respect, but you'd sure get more of mine if you left off the haranging.
It's the "AM" here, so I'm hitting the sack.
Later guys - have fun.
hello all... i came across this line of questioning many months on the inet so i decided that i would submit just this once to peer pressure and make a usefull contribution to the board.. here is the question... is jesus just "a god?".
many of the regular inet surfers would have come across this line of questioning before so if you have you could just sit back and relax and read the replys.. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>.
me: so is he a 'lesser true god' or a 'lesser false god?'.
AlanF:
Nice post - well put
I've never gone for the 1x1x1=1 route either. It's a kiddies illustration, used in an attempt to avoid the polytheism issue.
It is absolutely meaningless.
Nice catch, on the polytheism, incidentally.
I have to agree, it's only worshipping more than one God that is condemed in the bible.
According to my understanding of Scripture the Word was God (John 1:1) but God isn't anywhere described as "the Word".
YHWH and Jesus are also ascribed to being God.
If the only "one God" principle is to be adhered to then God cannot be a title but must be a form of spirit being, or "substance".
(note use of capital "G")
I see no other meaning for it, other than contradiction (and I guess you know that I'm not quite ready to go there yet).
The whole area of theology is one of concept. After all, who can truly comprehend and explain the infinite?
ANY attempt to illustrate these concepts in human or physical terms or illustrations, fails.
Hence I tend to frown on the whole idea of using mathematics, states of water, or three-fingered gloves, to illustrate something that the proposers of those illustrations are barely grasping.
FYI, I lean heavily towards believing the Trinity as the best fit answer to the "God" conundrum.
Edited to add that the "version" of the Trinity I mean is "three persons, one substance - God" a higher order of spirit, just as man is a higher order of flesh (allegedly).
just a small request to you all.. britian is not england.. england is a part of britian, as is wales, scotland .a lot of what you may think is english is in fact welsh or scotish.. it is like me refering to the usa as new york .. if this carries on i'll have no other choice but to call the usa canada.
I'm flying down to Luton on Monday (3pm).
Gotta be in Bassingstoke that evening.
Anyone around and interested in meeting up?
Feel free to email.
should jws get involved with school reunion web-sites?
would the society approve?.
would a mature brother seek out bad associations via such sites?.
I managed to convince my wife to join FriendsReunited on the same grounds.
She's contacted quite a number of old pals.
It's recently been expanded to cover workmates.
hello all... i came across this line of questioning many months on the inet so i decided that i would submit just this once to peer pressure and make a usefull contribution to the board.. here is the question... is jesus just "a god?".
many of the regular inet surfers would have come across this line of questioning before so if you have you could just sit back and relax and read the replys.. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>.
me: so is he a 'lesser true god' or a 'lesser false god?'.
I would suggest the following be considered:
Maybe the name YHWH refers to God.
God consists of Father Son and Holy Spirit.
The idea of Father / Mother / Son as a worshipped triad is from the oldest histories. Was it of corrupt origin, or were the historic triad mimickeries of what existed in the heavens.
Maybe the Holy Spirit is the feminine form.
There are no specific genders in heaven, as we could truly term them, as highlighted by Jesus words concerning the resurrected.
Hence all three are refered to as "He".
This would also concur with many pagan sources (and I don't state that in any derogatory sense).
Back to the thread - they've got difficulty with the whole "person of the Holy Spirit" thing too, as the reasoning on "merely a force" is a bit tenuous.
lol sorry i am feeling fluffy tonight .
mulan started it!!!!!!!.
coke for me....the real thing or nothing!
I love being a grown-up
You do?
So when did that happen then?
Cooooke - heeheeheeheeheee
Telly tubby bye bye!!!
depressed man diagnosed as "british" from the guardian:.
george farthing, an expatriate british man living in america, was recently diagnosed as clinically depressed, tanked up on anti-depressants and scheduled for controversial shock therapy when doctors realised he wasn't depressed at all - only british.
not depressed, just british: .
Eman:
Priceless!!!
ROFL
Prisca:
Logi is most definitely British - LOL.
Sirona:
I think we are in no position to judge our condition - LOL.
To anyone who will listen:
Life's a b*tch and then you die!
Weather's ok today, sorta.
"Show me the way to go home..."
just a small request to you all.. britian is not england.. england is a part of britian, as is wales, scotland .a lot of what you may think is english is in fact welsh or scotish.. it is like me refering to the usa as new york .. if this carries on i'll have no other choice but to call the usa canada.
RF:
Truth is, the likes of Edinburgh is very highbrow. Queen's English is spoken clearest in Scotland. Also, we are still the producer of the finest Whisky's.
The sporting contests are the funniest.
If the medalist is English, we sure know about it.
If the medalist is Scots, etc. they are suddenly British.
Gotta love those sports commentators.
i was wondering if i am considered one by the wt defintion.
i have never been a jw in my life but i disagree with their doctrine.
are all the "worldies" considered "apostates" or just the ex jws?
If you aint never been a JW, you can't be in our gang - it's as simple as that.
And bribing Xander for the handshake is Simony, so cut it out!!!
Quite a number of my Christian friends get avoided, too. Funny that!
I'd like to hear your questions, too.
