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  Ex witnesses in UK

  by Michelleatkin in

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  i'm new to this site, found it whilst looking at panarama web site.

  are there many here from uk, even lancashire?

  if so, please let me know as it would be nice to speak to some ex-witnesses in uk.

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  LittleToe

  I missed this thread, first time around - I think I was travelling to Englishman's BBQ.

  Just a shoutout from the North of Scotland.

  I also lived in Bucks and Notts, and knew folks from all over Norfolk, the Midlands, Lancashire, and Yorkshire.

  LT
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  Christmas Greetings around the globe

  by ozziepost in

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  here on the pacific coast of australia it's 2:00 am and mrs ozzie and i have just returned from a candle-lit xmas service and it's now christmas day here.

  the air conditioners are going flat out and the ocean temperature right now is 22 degrees celsius.

  a right royal xmas!

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  LittleToe

  It's 00:05, Xmas morning, in Scotland (UK) - it took me a couple of minutes to find and reply to this thread. Nollaig shona agus Bliadhna mhath ur!
  
  Merry Xmas and a Happy NewYear!
  
  Here's wishing all you lovely people a great year to come...
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  144,000 and Rulership

  by artful in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  while investigating the wts concept of "two classes of christians" - the first being a heavenly ruling class made up of the 144,000, and the second an earthly subject class - i decided to investigate the basic wts premise that all of the 144,000 are to be "rulers with christ".

  those who would rule with christ - the "first resurrection".

  although it could be theorized that if paul said that the "saints" or "holy ones" are to judge the world, and these are part of the "firstfruits" then the some of the 144,000 may be ruling with christ.

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  Bona Dea:
  Unless I missed it, no-one addressed your question.
  JW's teach that the heavemly resurrection began in 1914, after Christ was installed as king.
  That isn't a hard teaching to debunk...

  Good post, artful.
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  How many know about the little box?

  by gumby in

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  i guess i'm a dipshit.

  i didn't know about the little white box to the left of your name.

  if you click it your posts are gone until it's clicked again.

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  LittleToe

  Hey Simon, was that an attempt at a Scot's accent?

  Looks like Ang got an early Xmas present
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  Are there too many EX-JW Born agains?

  by sleepy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i dont wish to offend anyone but this is what i think.a large number of people who leave the jehovahs witness movment become born again christians or join other religious groups.but is this a sign that many who have learnt that "gods chosen organisation" is wrong have not learnt anything at all?.

  maybe the prospect of facing a future without a god , a divine purpose , and a faith just too much for some people to bear.but in joining another religious group are they not making the same or similar mistakes as before?they are still putting their trust in a ancient book written by people they have never met, interpretted by other people or by themselves, they have not maybe learnt to be analytical in their thinking and to withhold trust until reasonably solid evidence is provided on an issue.. although other religious may or may not be more harmful than jehovahs witnesses if lessons on thinking and reasoning have not been learnt then we could be open to many more errors of judgment in our lives.. so does the fact that many jehovahs witnesses join other religons show that they are just moving on rather than understanding why jehovahs witness are wrong and learning from it?.

  maybe they dont fully grasp that the fudamental flaw to jehovahs witness , is belief in the bible as gods word only the second being following that through an organistation .if the bible is not gods word then all religions who follow it are flawed.. of course what other people choose to think or follow is none of my buisness and i fully respect other peoples right to believe what they want, but if this world is to progress and mankind to improve in thier dealings with one another then we can not all go round living in our own little fantasy worlds , we must be brutal with ourselves in checking why we believe the things we do and trying to align our minds with reality not fantasy.. this apllies to all aspects of our lives.but if we are not honest or open minded and reasonable enough to see there are some massive problems to the bibles authenticity and divine declerations how will we be able to make reasonable decisions in other areas of our lives?

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  LittleToe

  You have been rated the sex puppet of this forum...

  I have? Musta missed that thread.
  I'm not quite sure what to do with that - Are you saying that I have somebody's hand up my ass???

  (I never touched her, Harold, honestly!)
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  Are there too many EX-JW Born agains?

  by sleepy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i dont wish to offend anyone but this is what i think.a large number of people who leave the jehovahs witness movment become born again christians or join other religious groups.but is this a sign that many who have learnt that "gods chosen organisation" is wrong have not learnt anything at all?.

  maybe the prospect of facing a future without a god , a divine purpose , and a faith just too much for some people to bear.but in joining another religious group are they not making the same or similar mistakes as before?they are still putting their trust in a ancient book written by people they have never met, interpretted by other people or by themselves, they have not maybe learnt to be analytical in their thinking and to withhold trust until reasonably solid evidence is provided on an issue.. although other religious may or may not be more harmful than jehovahs witnesses if lessons on thinking and reasoning have not been learnt then we could be open to many more errors of judgment in our lives.. so does the fact that many jehovahs witnesses join other religons show that they are just moving on rather than understanding why jehovahs witness are wrong and learning from it?.

  maybe they dont fully grasp that the fudamental flaw to jehovahs witness , is belief in the bible as gods word only the second being following that through an organistation .if the bible is not gods word then all religions who follow it are flawed.. of course what other people choose to think or follow is none of my buisness and i fully respect other peoples right to believe what they want, but if this world is to progress and mankind to improve in thier dealings with one another then we can not all go round living in our own little fantasy worlds , we must be brutal with ourselves in checking why we believe the things we do and trying to align our minds with reality not fantasy.. this apllies to all aspects of our lives.but if we are not honest or open minded and reasonable enough to see there are some massive problems to the bibles authenticity and divine declerations how will we be able to make reasonable decisions in other areas of our lives?

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  Eman:

  you are one of the most amusing and interesting people that I have ever met!

  I don't mean to turn this into a mutual appreciation thread, but gee, thanks!!! And there I was thinking the same about you. I've enjoyed your posts since I first started here.

  Now I just need to work out what you find amusing, and what you find interesting
  LOL

  Sleepy:Only yanking ya chain, pal

  I think there's also a threat of throwing the baby out with the bathwater, when we've left something as extreme as the JW's. I know that you've chosen not to believe the bible has any relevance in your life, but that's your choice. Personally I enjoyed your company, when we met, and hope to see you again sometime. Your choice doesn't denigrate you, in my eyes, nor do I feel any inclination to evangelise you.

  Ed:
  As for terminology - I find the most frightening thing is hearing AppleMac users talking about "clicking" things and moving Windows, as if they were Micro$oft users (~shudder~) - Scarey stuff!!
  ~ducks and runs~

  Gumby:
  I think that some would call you "back-sliden", but frankly, that's between you and your maker.
  So many run around saying that things and people are categorically "such and such". I personally believe that God laughs, between the tears, at the foolishness of our pride.
  I hate categories, pigeon holes and "types".

  One things for sure - we'll all find out, one day...
  ...or not.
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  LittleToe's Mojo

  by Sirona in

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  its nothing to be ashamed of, is it???

  no....its normal...... .

  i just have to....then its out in the open...... .

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  LittleToe

  I am thinking of popping down on the weekend of 25/26th January, because work keeps me in the lowlands of Scotland during the weeks before and after.

  I'm also thinking of hitting the States end of February, start of March, so I shall be confering about a US apostofest then, too.

  LOL @ Benny HIll tune.

  I wonder if the mistletoe will last that long? Mistletoe for LittleToe???

  (Edited to add following comment, because I posted at the same time as Xena)

  Too bad I DA'ed, huh? Now they can't DF me!

  Edited by - LittleToe on 24 December 2002 8:22:34
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  LittleToe's Mojo

  by Sirona in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  its nothing to be ashamed of, is it???

  no....its normal...... .

  i just have to....then its out in the open...... .

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  LittleToe

  Charmer, eh? I don't think I'd have put myself in that category.

  I may be travelling down to England, at the end of January. Save me some of that Xmas spirit, huh?
  Looks like it's gonna be rather quiet up here, what with my wife still being assimilated, and all.

  ~brushes himself down, from Xena's rugby tackle~
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  LittleToe's Travels III (November)

  by LittleToe in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is a continuation of two previous threads:.

  september.

  october.

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  LittleToe

  Termite:
  Darn, I forgot to mention the sheep!

  The field I ended up in was full of sheep, so I had to call the police because the fence was down. It would have been no good having a flock of sheep all over the A9, now, would it. Slow bend, fast road, flock of sheep...

  Do I get to rival the Archers, now?

  Sorry to hear about your accident, too.
  I would have been even more annoyed, if the guy hadn't come back with his insurance documents and an apology, so I can appreciate how you feel.
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  Are there too many EX-JW Born agains?

  by sleepy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i dont wish to offend anyone but this is what i think.a large number of people who leave the jehovahs witness movment become born again christians or join other religious groups.but is this a sign that many who have learnt that "gods chosen organisation" is wrong have not learnt anything at all?.

  maybe the prospect of facing a future without a god , a divine purpose , and a faith just too much for some people to bear.but in joining another religious group are they not making the same or similar mistakes as before?they are still putting their trust in a ancient book written by people they have never met, interpretted by other people or by themselves, they have not maybe learnt to be analytical in their thinking and to withhold trust until reasonably solid evidence is provided on an issue.. although other religious may or may not be more harmful than jehovahs witnesses if lessons on thinking and reasoning have not been learnt then we could be open to many more errors of judgment in our lives.. so does the fact that many jehovahs witnesses join other religons show that they are just moving on rather than understanding why jehovahs witness are wrong and learning from it?.

  maybe they dont fully grasp that the fudamental flaw to jehovahs witness , is belief in the bible as gods word only the second being following that through an organistation .if the bible is not gods word then all religions who follow it are flawed.. of course what other people choose to think or follow is none of my buisness and i fully respect other peoples right to believe what they want, but if this world is to progress and mankind to improve in thier dealings with one another then we can not all go round living in our own little fantasy worlds , we must be brutal with ourselves in checking why we believe the things we do and trying to align our minds with reality not fantasy.. this apllies to all aspects of our lives.but if we are not honest or open minded and reasonable enough to see there are some massive problems to the bibles authenticity and divine declerations how will we be able to make reasonable decisions in other areas of our lives?

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  LittleToe

  It seems there are some pretty broad sweeps of the brush, taking place here.

  I was "born again" whilst still a JW, hence why I thought I was "anointed". It was a rush of overwhelming peace, that started the ball rolling.

  Now I'm out, I attend a variety of churches, and have my own beliefs (which continue to evolve).
  I'm not so dogmatic as to believe that I have all the answers, because I know I haven't.
  I'm quite content for others to have their own beliefs, and I wouldn't condemn them for that.
  If you REALLY must categorise people, I'd like to be in the slot marked "Unorthodox Christian", please.
  But as for the original question: "Are there too many EX-JW Born agains?" I would have to answer no, unless you lump all BA's as Fundies, which I feel is unfair.

  IMHO there are atheists that are just as rabid as Fundies.
  I've met a number of atheists who are just as happy to try to convert people to athiesm, as Evangelicals are to help convert people to Christ.

  Sleepy and PD - you've met me - did I come across as a Fundy?