Posts by MartynAndrew

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It's my Birthday!

by Found Sheep in

the 3rd one i'm celebrating!

i'm 36 and doing well!

party party.

POLL/SURVEY- Why Did You Leave The Organization of JW's?

by PublishingCult in

why did you leave the organization of jehovah's witnesses, and/or why are you contemplating leaving the organization of jehovah's witnesses?.

i've tried to boil it down to the most likely answers based on all the reasons i have heard over the years from xjw's.

a. because the watchtower bible & tract society does not have the truth.. b. because i had a personality conflict with other members of the organization.. c. because i discovered that the wtbts was not being honest or forthcoming about its history.. d. because serving jehovah was too difficult and i just wanted to be worldly and do wicked things.. e. because the governing body of jehovah's witnesses have proved to be false prophets.. f. because i found just cause to disagree with erroneous jw teachings.. g. because the governing body and/or elders were hypocritical.

MartynAndrew

Other

Mostly it felt like watching paint dry, and I could not read another watchtower if my life depended on it, it sucked that bad, even if I was paid to read that crap I don't think I could do it.

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Have you ever felt an earthquake?

by Iamallcool in

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personally, i have never felt an earthquake in my life.

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MartynAndrew

Here in Southern Ontario they are rare, but right after I said that we never have things like earth quakes, tornados...the next day we had a mild quake, it was felt over a great area, but not much to it, sort of like a really strong wind shaking the house for about 5 seconds.

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Something I've been wondering about

by MartynAndrew in

i haven't been to a meeting in years and wonder what is the reason given for pioneering, or whatever else you can do.

i mean if you are saved by just heart condition, or two hours per month why should a person put in 45 or 90 hours.

i wish i would have asked a lot more questions, instead of just signing up.

MartynAndrew

Thanks for the feed back,

The repetition is what finally killed me, I could not take it anymore, i'd rather face anything than another Sunday listening to that crap, I mean the first time was bad, but the 50th was a killer,once I check out all that I could I was done. I've often wondered what others thought all these years I didn't know a single xwitness at least that I knew of.

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Something I've been wondering about

by MartynAndrew in

i haven't been to a meeting in years and wonder what is the reason given for pioneering, or whatever else you can do.

i mean if you are saved by just heart condition, or two hours per month why should a person put in 45 or 90 hours.

i wish i would have asked a lot more questions, instead of just signing up.

MartynAndrew

Hi

I haven't been to a meeting in years and wonder what is the reason given for pioneering, or whatever else you can do. I mean if you are saved by just heart condition, or two hours per month why should a person put in 45 or 90 hours. I wish I would have asked a lot more questions, instead of just signing up. I spend way more time buying a car. In some ways I'd like to explain to my old congregation why I left: which is- God as I understand him would have nothing to do with this pile of boring dung, I mean, would a humourous, loving, cool father put any kid through that total waste of time. I'm pretty sure that a good number of witness are thinking the same way as me, and I think that will be my line of reasoning if given the chance. marty

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ABBA - Dancing Queen (1976)

by possible-san in

abba - dancing queen (1976).

even now, the japanese people love this music.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reeluors1pq.

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MartynAndrew

Love it,

I have to have ABBA, Queen and Elton John in any car!

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Hobbies

by MrFreeze in

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being a jw, especially if you work, there is no time for anything else really.

work, field service, meetings.

wash, rinse, repeat.

MartynAndrew

I went back to school. I don't know if thats a hobby, I think it became more important when the opion was taken away. Also, it allowed me to make enough money to enjoy some hobbies, I took up flying for a while, bass fishing, squash, running and the worst of all golf. Golf helps me with my other hobby which is swearing, something the truth had stifled and that supression allowed it to magnify to art.

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Another New Guy

by MartynAndrew in

i didn't want to read to much before putting up my story.

some time in the late 80's i heard from my parents that my brother now a jw.

my family had been through some ups and downs so it wasn't that big a suprise.

MartynAndrew

Thanks for the kind words.

Yes my brother is out. Yeah I was about 22 when I first came in, and not really prepared for craziness on the scale that is the Watch Tower, they looked so together and had all the answers. I remember asking people if they really believed all this and they would say-Yes. They said they looked in to it and that some had left and came back when they realized what they were missing and things like that, they talk a good game, at least some did. Well, as someone mentioned I'm glad I didn't get roped in too badly and was able to walk, and didnt have to go through the whole thing as a child. Again, thanks. Marty

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Another New Guy

by MartynAndrew in

i didn't want to read to much before putting up my story.

some time in the late 80's i heard from my parents that my brother now a jw.

my family had been through some ups and downs so it wasn't that big a suprise.

MartynAndrew

Hi All,

I didn't want to read to much before putting up my story. I'd like to thank all of you. Some time in the late 80's I heard from my parents that my brother now a JW. My family had been through some ups and downs so it wasn't that big a suprise. The next couple of times I saw him he gave me literature. I did a bit of research, but I didn't find out much, not much was around like today. JW's were mentioned in a few books about cults...Anyway, I'd been using a lot of drugs and alcohol and my life was out of control and I was looking to slow things down. I moved from Toronto to Missisauga, right into the heart of my brother congregation. I did not plan it that way but that is what happened. People started to visit I started a bible study... I was baptised July 21 1990 at the convention.

I guess I like the attention(love bombing) and the social life, and for me it sort of felt like a family. I think I have a certain look that the elders liked I seemed to get away with murder and was not counselled. I like the attention from the sisters and I liked the change of life style from what I had been doing. I didn't believe everything that I heard by I played along and never really questioned it openly. I shared houses with a few different brothers and changed jobs a few times, I did a little auxillary pioneering which I didn't even come close to the hours, I think 45, I did about 10. We had a few guys from Canada Bethel at the hall and I got to hang out with a few of them, very impressive;). I went to work a couple of times on constructing some new facilities, what a privlage! At one point I dated an sister from an Italian cong, and when I stopped seing her I got called in. They had complained that I did not act christian or something and they expected me to marry her. I didn't not really understand all the dynamics, but I moved on. Once it became apparent that I wasn't going to be the next best thing, people sort like everyone else or what ever and I tired of the whole thing.

I did meet some people and it had it's moments. Because I didn't grow up in it, I didn't suffer like some young people, I was about 23 when I first got involved and moved on about 2 years with the fade technique as you call it. My brother had started to doubt, when he didn't get into Bethel and I had nothing keeping me there. I was developing the forearm of a tennis pro from all the sex and had to leave. I had a worldly girl friend when I came in and she stayed for a brief while, our little story made it onto the stage one year in Georgetown Assembly. My only real regrets and wasting the time and pushing the crap on family and friends. Thankfully none of them bit so I didn't do too much damage.

Thanks again for being here, I've been carrying this around for years and never spoke a word to anyone. I often wonder where the others are, and what ever happened to so and so. I still have my leather bible, I guess it's the only thing I have from those wasted years.

Regards,

Marty

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What Doctrines or JW Views Did You Not Find Too Believable?

by minimus in

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the thought that a loving creator would violently destroy anyone not belonging to the jehovah's witness religion including billions of babies seemed just not right.. the fact that you could recieve some "acceptable" blood components but could not donate those same lifesaving yourself seemed strange.

you could recieve a blood fraction but you couldn't give it.. any others you can think of?

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MartynAndrew

Hi

I remember studying with a guy around 1989 and in the book there was a section that said that it hadn't rained until the the flood with Noah. When I asked about that, he said to just cross it out, new direction has been given and it's not right. So I crossed it out and carried on. Then we got to the way they figured out 1914 and they explained the math. I could not believe my ears, I asked if they actually believed it...of course the slave would not mislead the flock so it must be correct. Ah good time. Marty