Posts by MartynAndrew

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Was The Internet The Clincher For You To Mentally Leave The Organization?

by minimus in

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i think it was for me.. i knew a lot of the history of the bible students, russell, rutherford and the "old light".

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once i could see all of the overwhelming evidence right in front of my eyes, there was no ignoring the reality..

MartynAndrew

I left before the Internet was readily available. I probably would never have became one in the first place. When I was studying I'm sure I would have done some searching around and found out the truth about the...

Back then I only had people in giving me information and i took it at face value, even in books about cults JWs were only mentioned in a minor way and not with any real conviction. Anything negative was easily explained as Satan working against gods people, being tested and other crap.

From what I've heard and read, the Internet may actually put a good dent in the org, and it reminds me to rember some poor stiff maybe reading everything I write and I don't want to scare him away from investigating further.

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Being raciest, need clarity.

by free2beme in

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growing up a witness, and having black friends and and relatives.

i was kind of in the dark as to what being a raciest was really based on.

so as i get older and think about it more, i thought it might be an interesting question to discuss what you think makes a person raciest and how they base this thinking.. i am going to use the african american racism in this example, as i think that more then any other group.

MartynAndrew

http://dambisamoyo.com/

I'd like to add Dr.Moyo to my comment, not only is she super smart she is hot as they come, therefore doubly smart.

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Being raciest, need clarity.

by free2beme in

jw
friends

growing up a witness, and having black friends and and relatives.

i was kind of in the dark as to what being a raciest was really based on.

so as i get older and think about it more, i thought it might be an interesting question to discuss what you think makes a person raciest and how they base this thinking.. i am going to use the african american racism in this example, as i think that more then any other group.

MartynAndrew

Scottish people are a real problem,

food is terrible, cheap, sound funny...some of my best friends are scottish, doesn't make it right, haggis.

this topic is and complicated, too complicated for me so I thought i'd wade it anyway, that is part of my back ground fight anyone for anything regardless of the no-win.

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Is there 20 questions or something like that

by MartynAndrew in

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i know in aa they have questions like have you missed time from work because of your drinking, spent too much money, lied to loved ones.... is there such a thing as 20 questions if your a member of a destructive cult?.

1. you are not allowed to read this since you can't read outside information.. 2. you can't question the leaders or beliefs or you will be removed.. 3. black mail and bribery are used(like the mafia) to control.

second death vs. paradise.. 4.... if there isn't one i'd like to create one-with your help- and pdf for easy hand outs at memorial time.

MartynAndrew

Hi

I know in AA they have questions like have you missed time from work because of your drinking, spent too much money, lied to loved ones...

Is there such a thing as 20 questions if your a member of a destructive cult?

1. You are not allowed to read this since you can't read outside information.

2. You can't question the leaders or beliefs or you will be removed.

3. Black mail and bribery are used(like the Mafia) to control. Second death vs. Paradise.

4...

If there isn't one I'd like to create one-with your help- and PDF for easy hand outs at memorial time

We could count out number or handouts/time...hehe

Happy Sunday everyone. One of the greatest rewards of being cult free is golf, it has been the thing that has filled the void best.

Best Regards,

Marty

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Hi I'm new.

by sweetmochasista in

hello all.

i'm not really new i registered about three years ago but never had the guts to post.

i'm still in but want to be out..

MartynAndrew

Welcome,

You are not alone in this

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Unemployment Rates For College v. High School

by skeeter1 in

young people with only high school diplomas or less are hardest hit by unemploymentpublished: friday, april 22, 2011, 1:46 pm ap graphiconly about a third of young people with a high school education or less are working full time.

ie6 hack ie6 hack young people who try to find work straight out of high school aren't faring well in today's tough economy.. .

four in 10 of those surveyed whose education stopped at high school are unemployed.

MartynAndrew

Hi

time will pass with or without going to school, so whether your 25 or 45 in 4 years you'll still be 4 years older- wouldn't you rather have a degree? Part-time is a good option for some people, it takes longer, but you can spread the cost over more time, and you can still keep your job sometimes. Even if you don't find a job in your field it still demonstrates the ablitity to think, reason, summarize, analysis...some of the best lawyers come from history degree or even languages. Life is supposed to be fun and interesting, it takes a while to shake the cob webs out and get on with it.

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So who's doing Easter Sunday

by designs in

do you see it as celebrating a literal resurrection event, or do you see it as a celebration of hope or some other cause to celebrate..

MartynAndrew

I love having a day off work and that is reason to celibrate. We are getting together with family and friends, none of them know about my past really and don't care, i guess Christmas and Easter will always be a little strange. I get a whole week off for christmas now thats paradise.

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I'm totally in love...

by mrsjones5 in

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with my french press.. *warning* if fluff topics make you gag and expose your superority complex then this topic is not for you...move along.

a few months ago i got a little french press from a thrift shop but i never used it.

last weekend i went to visit a good friend for a few days and i got my chance to use my little french press because my dear friend doesn't have a coffee maker which is kinda strange cuz he loves coffee just as much as i. .

MartynAndrew

We split a pound of Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee and used a press, it was sort of out of this world. Anyone listening to us discuss it would have thought we were talking about drugs with our split up pound of Jamaican and all.

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Questions for former elders.

by evilone in

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i have a few questions regarding moving and changing congs.

i would love to hear from former elders.. .

my wife and i will be moving soon, and as i described in an earlier post we will be using the move as an opportunity to fade.

MartynAndrew

Someone in an earlier post said- Witness Protection Program, that is so funny and so sad, having to excape from the most wonderful place on earth? Afraid for family and running for our lives, man it's sort of scarry. All the best, good luck with your new life.

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Temporarily tired of JW boyfriend. Should I: a) leave

by SEL in

or b) continue in my plan of eventually getting him out with steve hassan's help?.

option b is going to be expensive but not impossibly so.

but it would require more patience than i think i have.

MartynAndrew

my two cents- run, it ain't worth it, find someone else and get one with life, this person could be a broken record, and if you think it sucks now give it five or ten years.