Threads like these will always come up from time to time since Ray's books are timeless for anyone escaping a cult, especially the Cult of WT.
Thanks TornApart for the OP.
for me it was the book!
it opened my eyes.
i started it thinking it would just enlighten me about how the organisation works.
Threads like these will always come up from time to time since Ray's books are timeless for anyone escaping a cult, especially the Cult of WT.
Thanks TornApart for the OP.
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http://e-watchman.com/home/2012/11/11/who-really-is-the-faithful-and-discreet-slave.html.
Thanks Apocalypse for your work on cracking open the UN thing. (if that's indeed the case)
I personally don't think the video is very interesting or shows anything nefarious but that's just me.
so... i have been working on an excel spreadsheet that has "ttatt in a can"... i have it both in spanish and in english.
here's a preview:.
category / year1879188018901891name?bible studentsbible students "time of the end" starts in the year?17991799 "parousia" (presence)?18741874 jesus enthroned?18781878 end of the harvest?19141914 earthly resurrection?
Love it- keep plugging in all those dates! Great stuff Splash TY.
brother of the hawk, newly enlightened & gojira, recorded an elder's meeting on 5/7/03.
both does a great job of defending me and making the elders look foolish!.
thank you raypublisher/jj and jwstruggle for the awesome job you did on it.. follow up story was not recorded but we will post it here hopefully over the weekend.. enjoy, it's pretty hilarious how they try to control us and come after me on a work of fiction!.
Yep they just took it down at 2:20am this morning for, "Rejected (content inappropriate)".
It had almost 7,000 views and nearly 200 comments on it. It can now be found on at least two other YouTube channels, one of which is here:
from the video description:.
a heartbreaking situation is played out every day for many grandparents that are former jehovah's witnesses or mormons: their precious grandchildren grow up without knowing them, and in some cases the little ones are told that their grandma or grandpa hates god and is serving satan and will be killed at armageddon.. .
why would such a terrible thing be done?
But it does appear that a fair number of active Mormons shun/exclude former members.
i thought i sent a goodbye message on fb to two jdubs that i used to hang out with.
it sounded like goodbye to me, without saying goodbye.
here's what i wrote:.
I've been asked that exact same question a couple times. As was mentioned, I basically said: (Brackets are so you can insert what you're comfortable with and applies to you)
"I never left [God] [Jehovah] [Jesus] and I never stopped being a good [Dad], [friend], [person], [wife], etc."
touched by an apostate.
i cant decide if i want to curse or hug and kiss all the friends on jwn for giving me a bite of the red pill and allowing me the clarity i never had growing up.
we were raised one hundred-percent cult and our family obeyed all the rules that we could, some rules from the cult my mother refused to obey for a greater-good, like humanity, helping disfellowshiped ex-jws who were poor or depressed, she did not follow the cult's code of treating weak or mentally ill people like shit.
Connie you are not alone and me and a lot of us want to do more to help you- let us know what needs to be done....
How about I give that arsehole hubby of yours a beat down? JK!
BTW I PMed you.
is anyone aware if this project is already being done by someone?
if not, perhaps we can brainstorm how to go about this, now that the pdf for the revised nwt is out.
a couple initial impressions:.
I said:
"Couldn't you just generate a two-column document that has each translation matching up verse for verse next to each other like a parallel Bible?"
You said:
"Unfortunately we won't be able to legally distribute that since it will be composed of the Society's copyrighted material."
But if someone already has obtained both copies legally (Like many of us have, by downloading them off JW.org) then they can legally view such a document.
It's like someone running MAME on their PC and playing a ROM image of Space Invaders. It is legal to do so as long as you own the original ROM. (And yes I do have a rom chip from space invaders believe it or not!)
is anyone aware if this project is already being done by someone?
if not, perhaps we can brainstorm how to go about this, now that the pdf for the revised nwt is out.
a couple initial impressions:.
I have not been following every bit of the tech side of this convo but couldn't you just generate a two-column document that has each translation matching up verse for verse next to each other like a parallel Bible?
As long as they lined up fairly close then people could quickly scrutinize the two and find the interesting differences.
ok so i watched the video and at about 07:25 the brother says that building 1.5 million square feet of construction in less than 4 years will not be done without jehovahs spirit.. .
is that such a big deal 1.5 million square feet in 4 years?.
merch mart in chicago took less than 2 years to build 4 million square feet.
"Jehovah's Witnesses- The Organization Behind The Name"
It was such a mouthful to say. It was the first video they ever released for order at the Kingdom Hall in 1989, on VHS tape and I was at Brooklyn Bethel then whikle the guy and his family were filming it so nearly everybody there then was in it somewhere.