Posts by logical

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Reform....why?

by Deacon in

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the organization cannot be reformed from outside; that can only come from individuals who have the guts and will to do so inside, and the determination to get rid of hardline thinking that is so strangling.

my personal desire is to see immediate change regarding the child abuse policy, and that will come.

to see a clear, quick change in the horribly inconsistent blood policy rather than drag it out over years; kids are dying in the process.enforced shunning is also an evil that they will have to deal with eventually; it's ripping them apart.. .

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Are they the great apostacy of prophecy?

Most likely they are.

Are they the disgusting thing in a Holy place?

Yep. How disgusting is the second beast in Revelation 13?

Are we lacking in faith?

I know I am

It just goes round and round doesnt it?

Yep. We reap what we sow, the WTS are going to reap some pretty bad stuff... however, before that, they are going to turn against the GB, the "annointed" remnant, Babylon the Great.
THEY are going to reap what they've sowed... their "apostasy" from Jah to worshipping the "wild beast" who eventually turns against them.

Is The tribulation really going to happen?

Of course...

The WTS has never been correct. Through its smooth words and throwing truth to the ground, it has put itself where it should not be, and misled and scattered so many sheep.

No amount of reform can "correct" the WTS, or any religion, because they were never right. We are not supposed to worship God in buildings.

Christ did away with the old Jewish system of worshipping God in the temple building. Instead, Christians are the building blocks of the SPIRITUAL temple.

Maybe oneday I could be part of that spiritual temple.

The WTS will one day be entirely comprised of wicked men, all the honest hearted, genuine people who love Jah and will have left / been brought out of that place.

Deacon, you are one of the good people who have left the org. Count yourself lucky you have been "killed" by the WTS, the beastly image, thats all they have to offer... DEATH. Go to the one who can offer you LIFE... Jah... through Christ.

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Biblical PROOF that Jesus Christ IS GOD

by Bibleboy in

before i get started, my name is mark whitmore, 20, i live in vancouver, canada, and i am a follower of the way, a true christian, not a jw.

if you reply, please post who you are, how old and what you believe so that i know where you are coming from.

thanks.. now down to business.. strongs' hebrew and greek online:.

logical

I would like to add... Im not getting my arguements from Christ / Holy Spirit because for some reason im lacking in faith and dont know how to open the door to let them in

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Biblical PROOF that Jesus Christ IS GOD

by Bibleboy in

before i get started, my name is mark whitmore, 20, i live in vancouver, canada, and i am a follower of the way, a true christian, not a jw.

if you reply, please post who you are, how old and what you believe so that i know where you are coming from.

thanks.. now down to business.. strongs' hebrew and greek online:.

logical

question: are you getting your arguements from God's Word, (the bible)

Some scriptures for you:

John 1:1
Revelation 19:13

And last but not least... John 5:39-40

Have a nice day.

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Is the New World Translation the same as the Bible

by Brutus in

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are the holy bible and the nwt the same?

tell me why are they different.

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Fred,

You forgot to add: "With certain parts altered / relegated to footnote / parts added [in square brackets] to change meaning of verses to add support to false doctrines"

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Why arn't these things in the bible?

by sleepy in

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i just been wondering recently about the bible and it's content.. there are certain things that seem to be basic principles that humans have gradualy built up an understanding of through the ages and have advanced mankind in numerous ways.. so if the bible is gods word to man why didn't he mention these things earlier.. 1.germs.

humans have only recently come to understand the concept of germs and what they do and how to get rid of them.. imagine the suffering that could have been releaved through the ages if humans had been taugh by god about germs or bacteria .the black death need never had happened.. 2 logic.

why didn't he teach about how to come to logical and sound conclusions when confronted by an argument?.

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Dont blame "holy" wars on God... these are entirely down to men misled by false religions warring with other misled men controlled by false religions.

Christ taught a gospel of LOVE and LIFE, yeah, AS IF JAH would sanction "holy" wars. Come on, figure it out, its ENTIRELY DOWN TO MAN, enticed by wicked spirits.

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Why arn't these things in the bible?

by sleepy in

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friends

i just been wondering recently about the bible and it's content.. there are certain things that seem to be basic principles that humans have gradualy built up an understanding of through the ages and have advanced mankind in numerous ways.. so if the bible is gods word to man why didn't he mention these things earlier.. 1.germs.

humans have only recently come to understand the concept of germs and what they do and how to get rid of them.. imagine the suffering that could have been releaved through the ages if humans had been taugh by god about germs or bacteria .the black death need never had happened.. 2 logic.

why didn't he teach about how to come to logical and sound conclusions when confronted by an argument?.

logical

I think in quite a few places in scripture it is stated that JAH alone is God Almighty. The Bible is very clear on this, its only silly men with silly ideas who twist things toward a trinity. But this is not based on logic, just silly thoughts.

As for germs, gravity, planetary orbits etc... well, of course these are all part of everything, but in all honesty, what really does it have to do with the ransom of Christ and the Divine will?

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Psalm 50: JEHOVAH'S JUDICIAL RULINGS

by You Know in

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the 50th psalm is one of jehovah's as-of-yet-unrevealed judicial decisions that will become operative upon his people during the tribulation.

the following is a brief overview of the chapter.. "the divine one, god, jehovah, has himself spoken,.

and he proceeds to call the earth.

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I just find it sickening how a self-proclaimed TRUE CHRISTIAN who is supposed to preach LOVE, FORGIVENESS, MERCY etc etc continues to condemn everyone who wont conform with the WTS system of CONDEMNATION, PUNISHMENT, DEATH etc etc.

But if i am going to be condemned for refusing to do and share in the evils of the WTS, then so be it. I dont want to live forever worshipping a "god" like the WTS and YK portray.

ANYONE can quote from the Bible (not all the Bible is scripture) and put their own little interpretation to the scriptures.

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Psalm 50: JEHOVAH'S JUDICIAL RULINGS

by You Know in

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the 50th psalm is one of jehovah's as-of-yet-unrevealed judicial decisions that will become operative upon his people during the tribulation.

the following is a brief overview of the chapter.. "the divine one, god, jehovah, has himself spoken,.

and he proceeds to call the earth.

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Jdubla,

You Know claims to be annointed. He speaks as a prophet.

He thinks that he has all the answers and that everyone who refused to bow down to the golden calf image, the WTS (Revelation 13:14-17), is doomed.

He is a JW. A very special JW.

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Psalm 50: JEHOVAH'S JUDICIAL RULINGS

by You Know in

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friends

the 50th psalm is one of jehovah's as-of-yet-unrevealed judicial decisions that will become operative upon his people during the tribulation.

the following is a brief overview of the chapter.. "the divine one, god, jehovah, has himself spoken,.

and he proceeds to call the earth.

logical

Once again you fail.

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Psalm 50: JEHOVAH'S JUDICIAL RULINGS

by You Know in

jw
friends

the 50th psalm is one of jehovah's as-of-yet-unrevealed judicial decisions that will become operative upon his people during the tribulation.

the following is a brief overview of the chapter.. "the divine one, god, jehovah, has himself spoken,.

and he proceeds to call the earth.

logical

You DONT Know a thing

IS EVERYTHING IN THE WATCHTOWERS OWN PUBLICATIONS "APOSTATE"?

IS EVERYTHING IN THE BIBLE "APOSTATE"?

Why did the WTS change their questions in 1985 to focus on the ORGANISATION, rather than Father, Son, Holy Spirit AS DIRECTED BY CHRIST?

Why should I obey MEN over CHRIST?

(im not perfect, far from it, before you get the idea I think I am)

Why does a careful exegisis of the scriptures totally expose the validity of the door-to-door ministry, the position of the Great Crowd, the "annointed" etc etc etc?

Not an apostate view in sight to come to these conclusion.

Now, WHY THE HELL should I listen to you and your "god" when its quite clear I'm damned if I do and I'm damned if I dont?