as a non-x-witness, what do you folks think of the concept of one god in three persons?
some of you probably still have a hard time with it, as did raymmond franz, former governing body member.
nonetheless, the claims made by the bible itself seems conclusive enough upon close examination.. so why do recovering jws not question everything outright, rather than slowly, incrementally replacing doctrines.
ooops... I said:
We have to be careful to acknowledge Jesus as exactly who he is, the SECOND highest of all creation, LOWER than Jehovah.
That should read:
We have to be careful to acknowledge Jesus as exactly who he is, the SECOND highest being, the HIGHEST of all CREATION, but still LOWER than Jehovah.
as a non-x-witness, what do you folks think of the concept of one god in three persons?
some of you probably still have a hard time with it, as did raymmond franz, former governing body member.
nonetheless, the claims made by the bible itself seems conclusive enough upon close examination.. so why do recovering jws not question everything outright, rather than slowly, incrementally replacing doctrines.
Actually, the WTS do teach a framework of the truth. (Romans 2:20) A part of this framework is that Jehovah is NOT a part of some made up trinity.
The Bible is the truth. It is God's inspired word. The Bible clearly states there is only ONE God Almighty, Jehovah. The Bible clearly states not to commit idolatory (Revelation 22:9, 15) Jesus is the creation, worshipping the creation is bad in Jehovah's eyes. So worshipping Jesus is not on.
Jesus is more than a human. Jehovah gave all authority to him, not in 1914 as the WTS teaches, but after his ressurection. But, Jesus is STILL a created being. Even putting Jesus on the same rung as God Almighty is idolatory. We have to be careful to acknowledge Jesus as exactly who he is, the SECOND highest of all creation, LOWER than Jehovah.
If the trinity is true, why were the Israelites told to only worship Jehovah? Then later on down the line, Jehovah CHANGED and became part of a trinity? If this is the case, then you are in effect calling Jehovah a liar, for you are saying He has changed contrary to scripture, and that He lied about Himself being the Only true God Almighty.
The trinity doctrine is a truly demonic blasphemous teaching.
since jesus is called the "wisdom of god" (1 cor.
micah 5:2 refers to jesus the same way psa.
he can not be the father, since he prayed to the father in jn.
the Watchtower Society being Christ's "fathful and discreet slave," Christ returning and being invisibly enthroned in 1914, the first resurrection taking place in 1918, and the heavenly calling being completed by the 1930s? Just wondering.
I dont believe any of that.
Now back onto the trinity, you are a dis-grace! How can you turn from the truth clearly stated, Jehovah alone is God Almighty, and actually compare the CREATION with Him?
Dont you see you are up to your neck in creature worship?
since jesus is called the "wisdom of god" (1 cor.
micah 5:2 refers to jesus the same way psa.
he can not be the father, since he prayed to the father in jn.
If there was a trinity, then it would be clearly stated in scriptures. The fact the OPPOSITE is clearly stated, that is there is only ONE God Almighty, Jehovah, doesnt that show you something?
hello, redhorsewoman,.
i was reading the long post of 2nd may 2000, about donations, and i could not .
help myself to send you this information concerning your quote:.
The amount of times money is brought up in the service meetings, suggested donations, suggested ways to donate etc, it is SICKENING
Mark 11:15-17
Now they came to Jerusalem. There he entered into the temple and started to throw out those selling and buying in the temple, and he overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves; and he would not let anyone carry a utensil through the temple, but he kept teaching and saying: "Is it not written, 'My house will be called a house of prayer for all the nations'? But YOU have made it a cave of robbers."
Money in this capacity should rarely, if ever, be brought up in a meeting. After it, or outside the actual meeting, but not DURING this time for "spiritual" instruction.
The WTS have so much money to burn, so why do they need to ask for more? They get more than they need and spend it on their own comfort and luxuries.
Jehovah can see what is going on, and Jehovah will justly deal with it.
in order to qualify as spiritual israel there has to be certain fundamental characteristics or basic truths.
these basic truths are revealed in the law covenant given by moses.
and can be traced down from the nation of israel, down through the 1st century congregation, and further down until our day and time.
ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!
ROFL!!!!
larc, you really do crack me up
imagine that you had never heard of the watchtower.
imagine that your life and that of your families had never been influenced by wt teachings.. i know for a fact that the wt's philosophy on further education contributed to my not achieving what i should have at school.
this is not to shirk the responsibility for my grades; ultimately they were my responsibility.
ALL OF YOU ARE STILL JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AND AT THE RATE YOU'RE GOING, YOU WILL REMAIN WITNESSES UNTIL YOU DRAW YOUR LAST BREATHE.
You have a point there. You see NO MAN can annul the covenant concluded at baptism. Baptised JW's have PROMISED Jehovah they will do His will for life, dedicated their lives unreservedly to do Jehovah's will... and Jehovah will certainly require this. Ecclesiastes 5:4-6
do they really believe in armaggeddon?.
i thought i would kick of my prescence here by starting a thread!.
do the governing body really believe that armaggeddon is just around the corner?.
Quoted from a post last year:
Okay...WTS/GB receives the "mark of the beast" in total compromise when the "Great War" of Daniel 10:1 DOES NOT LEAD TO ARMAGEDDON as predicted in publications, much to their chagrin, shock and horror, leaving those who are now witnesses of their unique "fall" from status as "prophets," now are suddenly, and surprisingly, unwilling to receive the "mark", therefore, INSTEAD OF TOTAL DESTRUCTION LIKE THE WTS, must now receive as Discipline from God, 42 months of trampling upon themselves (by political nations, "beast"), as decimated nation, the Jehovah's Witnesses, worldwide, a DISOBEDIENT PEOPLE clearly revealed for all to see, with only the "humble" among them expected to SURVIVE THE UNPRECENDENTED ORDEAL, just as the "Report" has been speaking of for years and years, and yes, just as, Zephaniah 3:11, 12 says:"...In that day you [Israel] will not be ashamed because of all your dealings with which you transgressed against me, for then I shall remove from the midst of you your haughtily exultant ones; and YOU WILL NEVER AGAIN BE HAUGHTY IN MY HOLY MOUNTAIN...and I shall certainly let remain in the midst of you a people HUMBLE AND LOWLY, and they will actually take refuge in the name of Jehovah." -- Zephaniah 3:11, 12
just wanted to say "hello" to all forum members.
i was a baptized jw for 23 years and was da'd about 18 months ago.
oh, the feeling of freedom.
Hi Rob.
The padded walls and floor are for safety purposes. Dont mind some of the inmates, they are on medication and are getting better. Allegedly.
You're in good company with the Thinkers, some of the more intelligent people on this board
hi, prisca,.
i am norm, and i am new here.. .
this post is primarily for those folk on this board, who post .
I agree with Prisca
There are too many people copying information available elsewhere on the web, and not really allowing room for discussion.
I tend to ignore most of it, but why bother posting it here? Most people get to those info sites, and this is a Discussion board not an info site.
